carolwasked Feb 9, 2007 at 11:06am
Reset counter on Samsung ML-2510
now the question for me is how did u get the new toner into the old empty cartridge?
i just bought one of these printers (built 3/08) and i do not see any obvious plug or other area where u would load new toner into it. is samsung maybe making the starter cartridge differently now? without a refill plug? if so, does anyone have any info/experience refilling one of these?
also, is it critical what brand (or type) of toner to use? are there different types of toner? the greedy printer companies want us to believe that the only good/useable toner comes from them.
This is Yaswanth again. Sorry for not being online for so long. As I mentioned earlier this is the right procedure as I am in to Refurbishing Business and I do all kinds of refilling.
1. First open the two screws in the front and push the front side a bit and lift the waste bin section up and remove.
2. You will see a black rod which is made with rubber and metal inside,This is the PCR (Primary Charge Roller) below That there is a green drum or Blue drum in some cartridges, this is called OPC drum.
3. Now you should open the sides of the cartridge in order to remove the PCR.
4. On either side there are 2 (two) screws please remove them and carefully pull the black sides part out. (both sides)
5. Then you can see the pcr with one end with a gear which touches with the gear of the OPC drum.
6. From that side push the pcr to he opposite side so that it comes out of the lock. be careful as its tricky.
7. when its is moved one side comes out. then pull back so it comes out.
8. It should be a bit white in color because of the usage
9. Now take distilled water and clean the pcr one side only from like you magnetize iron. not up and down. please do this with caution as pressing too hard will damage the pcr as it is made of sponge inside. but clean it properly till its black and uniform.
9. Now take the drum out and then clean it with a neat soft cloth and be careful not to place any scratches or dots on the drum as thy may end up in the print. if the drum is not clean by only cloth then you can use distilled water and soft cloth to clean the drum but dont allow the water to stay long on the drum. when finished please clean back with a dry soft cloth and make sure the drum is completely dry before going to point 10.
10. Now when both are clean, you will see a back roller which is present beneath the drum. this is called DVR (Developer Roller) which collects the toner from toner hopper and then places it on the drum. so make sure its clean by cleaning it with soft cloth. please rotate it when cleaning so its clean around.
11. Now rotate the DVR slowly from outside, dont touch the dvr with hand as its will collect your finger print and will come in you print. now see if the toner is spreading th dvr properly and evenly. if it is spreading evenly then place bac the drum in its position and slide back the PCR in its place. first the non gear end and then the gear end.
12. Then placing the gear end make sure you lift the contact which has spring a bit up and then slide the PCR in to it. and make sure the gear is sitting right on top of the drum gear. it should be perfectly matched else the drum wont rotate and you get a blank page while printing.
13. Now place the sides of the cartridge which you removed in point 4. and place the screws back total 4 dont forget.
14. Now clean the waste bin which you removed first and place it from back first. see that the they are two locks in the back and they go into the sides.
15. Now place the screws in the front. 2 screws.
16.Now print and enjoy.
You should get the print very good if you do this right.
If you still get faded print then your toner is not supporting this model. please change the toner and get toner for samsung models only not any other brands. it looks the same and black in color but there is a lot of difference in the chemical part of the toner.
If you still have doubts please feel free to mail me and i will try to help.
Hope you all understand my English
Please forgive for any mistake I have made in typing.
Thats all for now Happy Recharging:)
I somehow assumed that the lack of contacts on the fuse holder itself (and the fuse) were "missing" because mine is a starter cartridge and could not utilize a fuse.
Put in fuse from Radio Shack. Message gone, blinking light off, etc.
I do not know what toner to buy. I bought something designated for my printer.
and thanks for that link, moe...
and to GREG40 >
if i understand correctly whats been said in this post/thread all u have to do install a low amp fuse (like less than about 0.3 amps and the voltage rating is not critical) in the starter cartridge. just read the early posts here. KNP650 even provided a pic of it. thank u, KNP650! it sounds very easy.
i guess the printer detects the fuse and purposely blows it, which also resets the counter memory for another 1000 pages. or maybe it blows the fuse when the counter gets to 1000 pages?
either way tho if thats correct it now makes me wonder how a high capacity 3000 page cartridge works to allow 3000 pages instead of only 1000? or does it just allow 3000 pages automatically? that doesnt make sense tho either since the starter cartridge stops at 1000 pages, or at least thats how i understand its supposed to work. anyone have any info about this?
toner Samsung ML-2510
Just pick one. It's all the same stuff.
As for the page count, the fuse blows at some point. How about you figure that one out? Watch your page count and post when you find out.
and i will let u all know here when i find out but it'll be a long time from now, i bet...i very seldom print anything...i bought this laser printer only because i had several inkjet printers that dried up after only a year or 2, even tho i had printed far less than 100 pages on each one...and i refuse to pay $30 or $40 for a few milli-liters of ink! what a rip-off! i assume the toner wont do that...or something similar, i hope...since its not a liquid...
i asked all these questions mostly because i'm just curious how things like this work....
this is a great printer info site....thanks to everyone for all the posts and info they provided!
I also bought the toner refill from Ebay, 2 bottles for $13.98 including shipping. The refill is being used now and seems to work fine.
When does the fuse blow? I was curious about that so immediately after resetting the counter (blinking red light went away and green light came on), I turned off the printer and removed the cartridge to check the fuse with a continuity meter. The fuse had blown already.
Here’s my theory on the 1000 and 3000 count. When Samsung programmed the counter with the starter cartridge, they set the counter at 2000. At 3000 the red blinking light comes on. When a new fuse is installed, it resets the counter to 0. Just my theory and I could be totally wrong.
Here’s a linked photo showing the round refill cap or plug after the cartridge end cover has been removed.
After about 600 pages my red light started blinking etc. I went to Radio Shack and got the fuses (270-1046). Put one in and bam, no more red light, reset to 0 on the toner page count etc.
Also thanks for the toner refill info. Will try it soon as well.
Again, thank you all for your help.
You can Google up their web site.
I tried the fuse in the cartridge, powered off and on my printer, re-boot my computer and got a red light where it was blinking before.
I then attempted to print and it would not print.
I pulled out the fuse, tried another one and the same thing happened.
I only am able to print without a fuse installed in the cartridge!
-with the red light blinking.
Do I need a different fuse to stop the red light from blinking?
Try the 250 milliamp fuse. If that does not work, you are stuck.
Thanks for your quick reply. It was a 2.5 amp fuse, I am very lucky that you notified me and am grateful.
I know little about electronics as you can see.
I went back to radio shack and got a 0.31 amp fuse, and now I get a green light. Please let me know if 0.31 amps is still too much.
The printer is printing!
I didn't bother buying a fuse just to have it blown right away to reset the counter. Instead I used test leads to extend the contacts in the printer where the fuse connects (with cartridge removed - they are in the top left in the very back). I routed the wires through the paper intake opening of the front cover, then connected the two test leads, shut the front cover and disconnected the leads from each other after the printer started to spin up (it stalled after a very short spin up). I then opened the front cover again and removed the test leads from the printer and inserted the cartridge. This essentially simulated the fuse getting blown. If you want to play it save you can insert a 50 ohm (or so) resistor between the leads when you short them but directly shorting them didn't break my printer.
When I print a test page it now shows 924 pages total, 3k cartridge and 0 count on the cartridge.
BTW I picked this printer up a couple weeks ago from Office Max for $59 (and price matched it a week later for $49 with a Fry's ad). I bought this one to print a ton of applications my wife has to prepare currently. I also have an old (4 years or so) ML-1740 with heavily refilled cartridge but it doesn't print very dark anymore. I think the other parts of the cartridge are wearing out so instead of buying a new cartridge I bought the new printer for about the same cost. I figure since the starter cartridge is only filled partially but likely uses the same components otherwise I'll get quite a few more pages out of it before it fades with refilled toner. Overall I'm pretty happy with the two printers (the old one still works perfectly except for the light black intensity but that's probably a problem f the cartridge). Unfortunately though the Samsung driver for Mac OS X doesn't work with the Airport Express very reliably (it used to be fine) since some recent update. I have a D-Link ethernet print server though that works fine. I'll probably pick up another one when I find one on sale for the second printer.
I think either way you're going to be fine - you won't break anything or have higher cost one way or the other.
I'd probably just start out with the starter cartridge until the light comes on - if you have some other problems with the printer and you need to return it you won't be out your extra toner.
Everything works until I reach around 800 pages and the prints started to fade. I shook the cartridge and the result did not change. Also, the Alert lamp did not came on. The cartridge still have around 3/4 toner in the cartridge when I checked. Does anyone have this problem? I was expecting the fading to start around 2800 pages not around 800 pages. It seems like the starter cartridge can only prints around 1000 pages regardless if we reset the cartridge to 3K. I am not sure if this will happen if the refill is from a regular 3k cartridge instead of a starter. Is there anything else I need to reset beside the fuse? Thanks!
My Total Page Count = 2013, Toner Page Count = 914, Toner Status = Normal, Cartridge Capacity = 3K
Which is correct? It's was interesting to note, that when I inquired of ebay sellers who do not tell you how much toner you are getting, but claim "high capacity', they ignore my email and do not respond.
Can anyone let me know just how many grams constitute "high capacity?" Thanks Mike Herbstman
Is it true that there is NO place for a fuse on
the starter cartridges?
" Re: Reset counter on Samsung ML-2510 by Byakko (2/1/09 11:32 PM) reply + / -
Hmm...the original pictures that were linked arent working anymore due to exceeded bandwidth. I still don't know where the fuse is. Can anyone help me?"
Re: Reset counter on Samsung ML-2510 by LuzNan (2/15/09 3:58 PM) reply + / -
I don't know how to post a photo, but follow the instructions that ejburr wrote on 4/27/08. Just do the following: Take out the toner cartridge. Put it in front of you exactly as you retrieved it. Look at the left side, just above the green roller. See that little fuse there with shiny metal ends? Take it out and install a new one. I hope you find it now.
As I read and following some post above. I bought fuses .315amp -250volt ( 270-1046) at Radioshack. and when I opend screws on cartidge and I found now fuse in there. So can some one post the picture where the fuse located or send it to my email. I really appreciate.
Still on my starter cartridge with only 350 pages printed and nice dark print. When it gets light I'll replace the starter cartridge.
I used to replace my laser with a new one when its toner was low. Seems I could do refill and reset counter according to posts here.
BTW, many forums have posts on hot deals of laser printer. as low as $20~$30. That's a reason I didn't do refill previously.
Once blown it can be removed and discarded. It will not change the duration, qulaity and number of prints left in the cartridge.
I'm sure there is a machine registry key somewhere in the printer area that can do the same, but the fuse is easier. I had flashing lights, and put a fuse into the holder and the light went to green on the next boot. Make sure the fuse is in place before you power on the printer.
I also refilled with some toner, and the prints are not clear, only get half the page clear. Put up with the light until the flashing stops and the pages are light. You can try the toner refil instructions above, they are very good. But there may be differences on toner types, mine was not helpful. Do not wait too long either to try and fill.
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EDITED TO INCLUDE INSTRUCTIONS
eBay. Buy more and save on shipping. Be sure to get a funnel tip.
There are two end caps. Using a Philips-head screwdriver, remove two screws from the end with the metal electrical contacts. Remove the end cap.
Find, then remove the 1 inch round black plug. Use something thin, like a knife or a small blade-type screwdriver, and rock the plug from side to side while lifting. It's easier the second time.
Fill with toner, replace plug, replace cap, replace two screws. You're done.
Emptying waste (when you get dark streaks and blobs):
Using a Philips-head screwdriver, remove two screws from the TOP. Lift the waste collector. Your mission is to empty it even though there is no opening. Method 1) Tap it gently against something and toner will come out through the slot. Enough taps and it will be empty. Method 2 (still under development)) Drill a 3/8 inch hole through the top and tap the waste out through that bigger hole. Cover drilled hole with electrical tape to seal. Next time I'm drilling a second hole. Really though, I need a vacuum but I'm hesitant to put toner in my vac..
Replace the waste collector and the two screws and you're done. "
I read all the very helpful posts above (I didn't know anything about the fuse before), and my new cartridge does have a fuse in it, but did nothing to stop the red blinking light or change the printout on the printer info when I installed it yesterday. It's as if the printer has no idea I put a new cartridge in.
Can you visually see if a fuse is blown?
Thanks for everyone's help and advice.
I have an ML 2240 printer. From the text, I must have close to the same cartridge, if its not identical.
I now have two toner cartridges, the starter and what I assume is "re-manufactured" one that I just received with a claimed capacity of 3000 pages.
The printer behaves the same way with both. The red toner light flashes, and the test page shows 10\% toner remaining with 520 of 700 pages printed. The page count increments when a test page is printed.
Before ordering the cartridge the printer would not print. Now it prints. This the case with BOTH cartridges.
BTW: Wish I had found this web site before I ordered the cartridge. But that's life
I have purchased the fuses and I am ready to go!
bought new toner but the blinking red light remained. Printed test page, it has 800 count.
Prinds in faded colors.
I suggest you try the old cartridge again. If its an original you should get about another 700 pages out of it (for a total of 1500). If it is a previous large-sized replacement, then there may be some 2700 pages left.
the printer is printing light, faded documents because of the PCR Problem as its not getting charged properly. if any one has a problem regarding this please mail me
the printer is printing light, faded documents because of the PCR Problem as its not getting charged properly. you have to clean it properly when you are filling the toner in the cartridge. If any one has a problem regarding this please mail me
I have another question out of couriousity about the ml2510.
Whenever I turn my printer on, it evidently draws a high amperage to do a fast heat of the fuser, but it results in the overhead room light then blinking on and off. My UPS also will will peep as if there is a power interruption. I can;t leave my prionter plugged in as the amperage reccyles every 15 seconds or so this my lights dim every 15 seconds or so.
The printer is plugged into a wall socket, not the UPS, and the UPS is plugged into a different wall socke. Evidently both wall sockets are on the same circuit. The only other thiong on the circuit are a 19 ' tv that ois seldom on, and the 20 lcd monitor I use, plus my laptop. It is not like I have a dozen items using electricty.
Has anyone else experienced this immediate draw of amperage that make the rooms light s blink on and off. It is similar to if I hada power sag . My home is 4 years old, and I watched them do the electrical when I had it built, but I never expected this to happen... anyone have this issue?
thanks in advance,
So quite a few folks have asked how to solve the light printing problem. I have encountered this as well.
I have done the fuse thing... Also refilled cartridge. Just prints too light like it is toner saving mode. Some folks have eluded that it can be fixed, but not posted the fix as far as I can see...
Can someone please tell us how to fix the problem? I know, replace the cartridge with a new one... Don't want to do that, want to fix the issue with the one I have
Thank you so much to anyone who posts the fix!
I'm also interested about cleaning and preping the cardridge for a refill. What do I have to clean?
The problem with your lights dimming concerns me a little. The only way an incandescent light will dim is if it’s getting less than 120V. What concerns me is that the voltage should never drop on any outlet - no matter how much load you put on that circuit.
Voltage drop in a circuit is a function of the current and resistance as described Kirchhoff’s Voltage Law (KVL). Namely, V(voltage drop) = I(current) x R(resistance), or more commonly just: V=IR. If a light is dimming when one device in the circuit is drawing a lot of current, it would lead me to beleive that there is resistance in the wiring of your house - there shouldn’t be any measurable resistance in any wires in any part of your house.
Resistance can be caused by things like a frayed wire, a poor connection in a junction box, or failing or corroded breaker - the kinds of things that start fires.
You might find it helpful to use a hydrodynamic analogy to visualize the components involved. Think of a garden hose as the wire, the water as the current, the water pressure (at both ends of the hose) as the voltages, and any kinks in the hose (or even the diameter of the hose) as the resistance.
Just for fun, for those extra credit students the hydrodynamic analog of a Capacitor can be visualized by imagining the diameter of the hose expanding (like a balloon) when the water is turned on. To visualize an Inductor imagine the hose actually stretching in length when the water is turned on.
Bet ya didn’t know that :)
To clear paper jams, please follow the steps below.
1. Press the cover release lever to open the front cover.
2. Take out the drum unit and toner cartridge assembly.
3. Hold down the lock lever on the right and take the toner cartridge out of the drum unit.
Take out the jammed paper if there is any inside the drum unit.
4. Put the toner cartridge back into the drum unit until you hear it lock into place. If you put it in properly, the lock lever will lift automatically.
5. Put the drum unit and toner cartridge assembly back in the machine.
6. Close the front cover.
hope this helps you out.
that you know about these equipments, I want to share with you what I did to
solve the situation, although perhaps it is only temporarily. I already took
out the drum and checked for any jammed paper so many times that I knew there
was nothing wrong with it. Also, I opened the back part and also checked for
any paper, the same with the paper tray. I turned it off and on many times.
Well, I turned it off yesterday and turned it on today and, don't ask me how,
but it is working. I would like to say that it was because many copies were
made and it was hot or something, but that won't be true. So, I can't explain,
but it is working now. Thank you!
please email me
Bob ([email protected])
Thanks Yaswanth for the pointers on correcting the problem with faint print.
I have removed the waste collector from the top of the cartridge and can see a small black rubber roller that is pressed against the back of the green drum. At the right end there is a metal contact which would allow the printer to charge the roller and thus the drum. Is this the PCR?
How do I clean it? I expect that getting water on the green drum will damage it... so is the process something like this?
Clean a stripe
...wipe with a damp cloth from one side to the other
...dry that stripe
...should be perfect black
rotate the roller slightly
-repeat until complete-
Can I use ethanol or isopropyl alcohol? Should I put a plastic shield between the PCR and drum while I'm doing it?
I have a cartridge marked "bad" that I recall setting aside due to faint printing. I took it apart tonight, blew out the loose toner under the waste collector, and wiped the PCR with 70\% isopropyl alcohol.
I can't say if it worked though. A test print revealed that /that/ cartridge was the one with the marks on the drum.
While I had it apart, I noted that there is a metal plate with a strip of clear plastic screwed to the underside of the waste container - the wiper blade I presume. Removing the two screws opened the waste container wide open for easy dumping.
I wouldn't try to clean the drum until it was the very last resort before recycling the cart. I didn't think it would do anything but cause problems with the coating.
This is the best fix your own printer website I've ever seen. Thanks to you all. (Radio Shack tomorrow to kill my red light).
Refilled and all working well, except for the flashing red led...
Like the post 3 previous to this one, I used the 315ma fuse from
Radio Shack but my light will not clear.... I have tried (2) so
far without any luck... Any chance they changed the fuse value
on newer ml-2510's ? Or is there any other way to reset ?
Also, will the printer quit after it gets to 1000 pages on the starter
Thanks again for all the help !
I think the secret to longevity of your cartridges is....don't run low on toner! I refilled a new "compatible" after 1700 pgs and kept up that routine for 6500 pages before it finally printed my contracts too faintly/streaked!!
Now I'm gonna try yaswanth's "deconstruct" it yerself tips and see how many more pages I can get from that green drum(?) Saved me a ton of money! thnx to each and everyone of Y'all.
PS I love the 2510 its a hella work horse!
PPS anyone know how to reset the chip on an SCX-4623, I lept into that one not realizing the earlier version uses the same cartridge as the 2510, booiiingggg!
worked well for me. Had a fuse and more toner than the drum could hold along with halfway decent instructions. But their description of where to put the fuse weren't as good as those found here.
Did find that having a bottle of compressed air was VERY useful to clean off the cartridge after filling. The toner does have a tendency to get every where. You can find the compressed air at any electronic or computer store. Just need something dry to blow it all off with.
ISSUE: Purchased two Samsung ML-2150D8 toner cartridges. These are brand new, never used, in sealed original bags, matching serial numbers on bags and catridges......both get "Invalid Toner" message when installed in my ML-2150-XAA monochrome laser printer.
Printer driver updated. Power cycled printer. Cleaned contacts on side and front of new cartridges and inside printer. No change.
There is no error message with the existing toner cartridge when it is re-installed (and its been re-installed many times today).....the printer works just fine with the old cartridge. My existing toner cartridge is a re-mnufactured Samsung 8k cartridge.
SOLUTION: I swapped out the chip set between my existing toner cartridge and one of the new cartridges. The new cartridge now works using my old chip set. By the way, my existing cartridge with the chip set from the new cartridge now produces the Invalid Toner error msg.....so root cause of problem appears to be the chip set.
QUESTION: How do I reset the data on my old chip set to get full service life from my new cartridge?
I've read this excellent post several times and I know where to look for the fuse and what the fuse looks like BUT....the ML-2150D8 cartridge (and I have 3 of them now) does not appear to have an external fuse nor an external fuse holder.
Thanks for any help on this question.....Mav
I have been using compatible cartridges & only get the 'red light' when there is a paper jam or low paper. Never get the red light due to 'toner' issues. The toner cartridge seems to just run low on toner (not sure how many pages print) and begins to print lighter.
1) Should I expect more life out of the cartridge?
2) Why don't I get the 'red light'? Should I be getting it?
3) How many pages should I expect from the compatible cartridges?
I just learned about the 'counter'. I'll keep my eye on the counter in the future.
No one seems to have this problem. You seem to give the best answer. I hope you can do one more. Samsung ML-2510: Replaced the catridge from Amazon.(Fuse is there-only on the left side as you described it)Still this happens when turning on the the printer: Both lights blink this way: R(3)-G(1); R(8)-G(1);R(4)-G(1);&both lightup. This cycle starts again and go on. No printing. You said that fuse is inside the printer. I could not see since I am unable to open it fully.Is there another fuse inside the printer?If so, how to get to it? Pl. let me know Thanks for your excellent help.RP
It's been a while since I was here...the thread has been invauable to me.
I bought my 2510 about 3 years ago and exhausted the STARTER cartridge after 400 pages. Same time I found a discarded Samsung with the same cartridge.
I popped it in with a new Radio Shack fuse and it worked great for a while and ran out of toner. I filled it with toner and got another year out of it.
Now it's getting schutzy and the drum has a 1/8 inch diameter serious mark on it that makes a big black dot and I think the brushes aren't brushing weell anymore...time to go back to the dumpster where it was born.
No complaints: it was free.
The counter probably has about 2000 more pages to go before it "counts out."
So I thought I'd put some toner into the STARTER and pop it back in and give it a run for it's money.
My thinking is that the count on the starter without a fuse will be the same as the tossed out cartridge with the blown fuse.
Does that sound right to you?
I don't mind buying a remanufactured cartridge but if I get a couple hundred more pages out of the starter that will last me months, maybe a year. The best cost is a postponed one. :D
Thanks everyone who contributed!
ps have another ML-2510 printer that prints lightly in one strip area of the paper. Tried a brand new cartridge and still the same...any ideas to remedy this??
regarding the toner...when you remove the cartridge from printer there are 2 phillips head screws holding the plate on the right side...remove those 2 screws (1 on edge of cartridge and one near middle...remove plate...you'll find a rubber stopper under plate covering toner add hole...remove (in there very firmly so you may need something thin to start prying the stopper out...on an old newspaper or paper towels stand cartridge up and add new toner...careful not to overfill and have toner go all over the place...if so, shake cartridge a little, replace stopper and take outside or something and blow excess toner off (be careful, it is very fine powder and will get all over you)...replace plate and screws and put back in printer and you should be goo 2 go. Note: I have used same cartridge up to 2 or 4 times and then replaced cartridge completely...I have never changed a fuse (use your judgement). Let me know how this works.