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 | Brother toner cartridge low toner override by OppressedPrinterUser (7/25/06 2:22 PM) reply | + / - | Am using Brother HL-5170 DN and a TN-540 toner cartridge. The printer decided it was out of toner, even though the last page printed was fine. Rather than run out for a new toner cartridge I used a small (.5 x .5 in.) piece of black electrical tape to cover the sensor hole on the non-gear side of the cartridge. By covering the hole the printer is fooled into thinking the hopper is full of toner.
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by njp (8/1/06 10:59 AM) reply | + / - | Works for a DCP1000 also.
Just cover the eye that you can see in the bottom of the machine after removing the imaging cartrige with a small piece of electrical tape. When your getting low on toner you'll notice it on the prints.
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by Toby (9/27/06 12:46 AM) reply | + / - | Awesome. Thanks for the tip. Worked in a HL-1850 as well with a TN-560 toner cartridge. Was looking all over for something like this.
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 | Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by saar (10/25/06 5:12 AM) reply | +1 + / - | THX worked for me as well on a HL-2030, starter cartridge, still perfect quality. I covered both "windows" though;-))just in case.
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by Anonymous (11/17/06 4:05 AM) reply | + / - | with printer on you must push the switch wich is located inside in upper left side of printer (it is a small white switch) and then release it. this should work.
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by Anonymous (2/6/07 8:36 PM) reply | + / - | thanks so much! what great advice!
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 | Re: Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by jwooden5941 (3/3/07 8:16 AM) reply | + / - | Anon:
I have the Brother HL-5250DN I don't see a switch, do you know what models have one?
I was able to use the "electrical tape" approach, thanks to whoever recommended that one!
Jim
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by jwooden5941 (3/24/07 3:50 PM) reply | + / - | I am still printing away with my Brother HL-5250DN and tape covering the sensor hole. It has been 500+ more pages.
Intestingly the "low toner" light has again started to blink. I wonder if the machine as multiple methods for "guestimating" low toner - the photoeye & page count or something???
Thanks,
Jim
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 | Re: Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by jwooden5941 (3/27/07 3:15 AM) reply | + / - | Replying to my own note, after taping over the toner "hole" I was able to print about 1000 (yes one thousand) more pages before the low toner light started coming on again.
This morning I started a print session and got a "hard" low toner message that stopped the printer from printing ("toner end of life" on operator panel).
I removed the cartridge gently shook/rotated reinserted and we're printing again....
While black areas may not be "fully saturated" printing is still very good -- What in the !@#%#$^#%&#$^@%@# is Brother doing to us here? Ok ok ... I realize all the money is in consumables ...
Sorry....
Thanks for any comments!
Jim
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by Phrasemaster (4/7/07 11:39 PM) reply | + / - | The tape over the window works! Yeah! I had just printed about 400 pages (biggest job i've printed on this 5250DN, which I LOVE, by the way!!!). Then all of a sudden, message, End of Life on the toner as confirmed in the software control panel. Scratched my head. Swore. The printouts had all been perfect, no lightening, or ANYTHING, and i just KNEW there was still toner in that cartridge (I could HEAR it shaking the cartridge!).
Long story short, read the excellent post here, took a piece of scotch tape and carefully covered the hole over the sensor window on the non gear side, and then took a black permanent marker and colored in the tape over the sensor. Popped it back in place, worked like a charm! I love DIY shit like this! Besides I was really pissed off that Brother would decide FOR ME when MY cartridge was empty! I mean, COME ON! As George Orwell predicted, Big "Brother" is watching, but we still have power! Yahoo!
Thanks all!!
Mike
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by jrwooden5941 (4/15/07 12:09 PM) reply | + / - | My 5250DN informed me that I was "out of toner" at a page count of 3050 pages. I applied the fix above and now at the 4880 mark - not bad. I am now getting some "background" dusting / gray that is pretty evenly distributed over the entire printable area page.
Just to make sure there was not something else wrong I put in my new spare cartridge and it prints fine, so I guess at some point even toner still available something else is going on inside the cartridge... I understand there is some type of "toner recycle" mechanism in there that might be causing the dusting, but have never had one of these units apart.
If somebody knows of another way to clear up the background toner dusting let me know eh?
Thanks,
Jim
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by Anonymous (4/22/07 5:47 PM) reply | + / - | Brother use a system of returning the residual print waste toner from the drum, to the toner supply hopper, via a charge brush which is in contact with the drum and charged differently during the clean cycle of the drum. The charged residual toner is transferred back to the developer roller and dropped back into the supply hopper. This is why most Brother cartridges, unlike most makes, do not have a waste toner hopper in the drum unit. When the toner is getting low, the electronics increase the charge on the developer roller to compensate for the mix of waste and good toner. This process continues until the maximum charge can no longer be accepted by the toner. This results in the charge brush failing to operate properly and hence waste toner is not returned to the toner hopper, but remains on the drum. This causes the backgrounding which appears on the printed page. Even blocking the low toner sesor will not prevent this from happening. This is a brief description of a rather lengthy complicated prcess. Submitted by Robbo.
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by Anonymous (6/17/07 9:29 AM) reply | + / - | Robbo:
Sorry for my extreme delay in replying, thanks for the explanation!
Jim
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by djm2 (10/7/07 4:15 AM) reply | + / - | Hi there folks!
First of all I know that this is a long time since someone has posted but here is my question.
When I was at uni I bought a HL-5250DN printer and used it quite a bit. The printer comes with the low yield TN-3130 cartridge. The printer began flashing the toner light then later on the printer stopped working. I needed to print stuff for uni and didn’t have time to look into it but I knew that there was toner left as the last page printed was top quality. I bought the high yield cartridge and it started printing again.
But out of curiosity I decided to put the old cartridge back in to see what happens and it started printing again! I got the status from the printer and it thought the high yield cartridge was still in there.
So my question is if I keep using the low yield until it is finished will I have a reduced use on the new high yield cartridge when I start to use it? I mean can the printer tell what type of cartridge is in it? (I guess it can so that it can guestimate the pages left?)
Regards
Dave
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by jrwooden5941 (10/7/07 2:23 PM) reply | + / - | Dave:
I don't think there is any problem with swapping cartridges in and out....
by taping over the sensor holes in each end of my original cartridge I was able to extend the life by another 1000 pages. After that the background starts to "dust up" and get dark.....
But the printer is sensing how much toner is in the cartridge so swapping them should not be an issue....
Jim
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by joanalice (11/19/07 7:19 PM) reply | + / - | Has anyone used the Brother 7820N model, and do you know how to override the "Toner end of life, replace toner" message? I have only had the toner cartridge in there one month. Thanks.
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by mrgermy (11/21/07 12:23 PM) reply | + / - | I have the 5250DN. I covered the 'eyes' on both the left and the right. No go, still says no Toner.
I've tried a new cartridge and fuser, no go.
Anyone?
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by Anonymous (11/21/07 5:02 PM) reply | + / - | I also covered the eyes on both the cartridge and the machine, on each side (this is for the 7820N). Still says NO TONER.
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by jrwooden5941 (11/22/07 6:42 AM) reply | + / - | I have the 5250DN and covering the eyes on both sides has helped me get a lot of extra life from the carts. I have NOT seen the "NO Toner" message, only the "LOW Toner" message...
I do not know, but perhaps the "no toner" message is generated differently -- i.e. low towner error is generated when the printer can see thru the cartridge via the eyes, but that NO toner is somehow generated differently .... page count or some firmware function?
Jim
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by ajskillet (12/14/07 9:08 AM) reply | + / - | I have a Brother HL 2070n. The no toner led is lit, even after replacing toner cartridge. I tried the tape over the sensor hole, but it still says no toner. Any ideas?
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by Anonymous (1/2/08 3:12 PM) reply | + / - | http://www.fixya.com
This addresses your problem ajskillet.
Tried this on a 2040 starter cartridge and it also works.
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by CyberK (1/5/08 11:51 AM) reply | + / - | I didn't have any electrical tape at the job so i got a black sharpie and colored it in. Works like a charm
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| Re: Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by lukew (1/27/08 1:12 PM) reply | + / - | I had the same problem, the LED sensor block did not work.However, ...
There is a "flag gear" that, it seems, slowly turns (counterclockwise) as the toner cartridge is used, which finally hits a stop that appears to force the toner light on and prevent printing even if there is toner left. I have a TN550 cartridge which was refusing to print, and indeed the gear was at the stopping point. To reset the gear, take the cartridge out. On the gear side take off 2 screws, the flag gear (on the tn550) is the black gear on top right side, with a small spring underneath. Just take it off and reset it (rotate clockwise) so it is not at the stopping point.
I did not reset it all the way because there was some indication in other postings that it controls certain voltages that depend on the toner level. I assume my toner is actually getting pretty low so I just turned the gear back a little bit, and the toner light turned off, and the printer prints.
See the end of this toner refill guide for a photo of the "flag gear":
http://www.castleink.com/265/cartridge/TN580.pdf
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by jmanginy (2/28/08 7:57 PM) reply | + / - | I tried the tape and it worked great thanks for the advice
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by fishyink (2/28/08 8:56 PM) reply | + / - | these cartridges have a mechanicle reset on the side of the cartridge, once the cartridge is inserted in the machine the mechanicle reset is activated and will clear the toner empty message. so the only way to get the error is put a cartridge in the machine then take it out while its got toner in it then put another in then run that toner out, then put the first toner in and it wont reset the error message because the mechanicle reset has already been tripped. if that makes any sense.
the mechanicle reset can be reset by taking the side cover of the toner and put the cog back in its rightous place. that get triped once and doesnt gradually move it moves all the way when you first put the cartridge in .
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by rsd21855 (3/17/08 6:17 PM) reply | + / - | works great on MFC-8870DW also. Thanks!
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by waterboss (3/24/08 1:32 PM) reply | + / - | I tried the "tape over the hole" business and it didn't work for me.
Here's the technique for the MFC-7820N machine -- open front cover, push "options", push start, push 10, (mayber push "start" again here i dont remeber) then it should read "accepted", close cover, open cover, close cover, done. Haji, my technical support guy felt that I should not have had to open and close the cover a second time after it read "accepted", but I did.
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by Anonymous (3/30/08 7:33 AM) reply | + / - | Hi All
Anybody have a fix for TN250 cartridge in an MFC 6800.
Same problems with low toner light. Also out of toner caused shutdown. Managed to get it going again by cycling power on and off.
My problems have got worse after using after-market toner cartridges at ~$8 each but I can live with them (save $32 ).
Summary of my problems are
1 Toner shading intermittent. Sometimes gets worse as more copies are done. Sometimes starts bad and improves.
2 There is toner in cart and I would like to get low toner light off.
3 Occasional out of toner shutdown.
I have looked at the TN250, both brother and after-market, and see no window to cover!
Thanks for listening
Tom
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by Me Too (4/3/08 7:47 PM) reply | + / - | I just purchased a Brother MFC-9840CDW. It uses the TN-110 (lo capacity) and TN-115 (hi capacity) toner cartridges. I only got a little over 1400 prints on the TN-110 black before it locked me out. I did look and found a little window, as described for other brother machines. I was able to put the tape over the hole in the toner cartridge tray (holds all 4) instead of putting it on the cartridge itself. It worked like a charm. I looked and there seemed to be lots of toner left. I just was able to make more prints with no degradation of quality. Thanks for the help. I will continue to use this to override the low toner signal so I can get maximum use of the toner.
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by choppy (4/8/08 10:59 PM) reply | + / - | I love this "DIY shit" as well. LOL!!!
This is the best use of duct tape since Apollo 13.
I got stuck printing homework for the child late at night after the stores were closed, so this really helped out.
Thanks, I love you man.
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by Anonymous (4/10/08 4:45 PM) reply | + / - | Works for the MFC 9440 CN also- there's a square "window" on the left side of the toner cartridge- I put a piece of masking tape over, colored it black, and it's printing again. I was getting a "end of toner" message.
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by kmoffat (4/13/08 1:30 PM) reply | + / - | Any chance of harming the printer? We have the MFC-9440cn on which I just replaced the original black toner with a high yield. I haven't replaced any color carts yet. The original black low yield gave me about 1600 pages. I'm wondering if I could try this procedure in a pinch without endangering the printer. (it's an office printer, can't take chances)
Thanks,
Ken
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by bmaclane (4/19/08 11:16 AM) reply | + / - | I am about to try the cover the window trick on my MFC-9840Cdw to extend the use of toner that I know is not at the end of its actual printing life. What about the drum notices. It bugs the heck out of me that after only six months I am getting a change parts/drum warning. Thanks
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by MDCWLAF (4/29/08 1:09 PM) reply | + / - | I have the HL-2070N with TN350 cartridge.... Printer was working great with no light copies or lines until low toner error. Logged into the printer using the web browser and says only 1800 sheets printed. I just tried the tape on the side of the cartridge trick and it works great!!!! Might be able to get a few hundred more sheets out of this cartridge.
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| HL-5250 by Santacruz (4/30/08 11:07 AM) reply | + / - | For people who had this end of toner issue with the 5250dn, you simply need a star screwdriver as posted by lukew. It is easy to perform and will save you some money. Brother really disappointed me with a product that I could not be more satisfied of, up to now. (especially when that happens while printing term papers in the middle of a document!!!!)
http://www.castleink.com/265/cartridge/TN580.pdf
Thanks for the post lukew
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by Anonymous (5/2/08 8:14 AM) reply | + / - | I have a brother DCP-340CW printer whree the signs "Near empty Black" and "Near empty Yellow" keep coming up when full cartridges have been installed. Nothing will print.Any ideas?
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| Drum life has Ended? by Zohar (5/2/08 10:05 PM) reply | + / - | Is there a way around it.
Previously I naively purchased a new Drum, although I did feel wasting great hardware...
The Toner trick made may day.
The tricks large companies do are crazy but making us throw away technology and create tons of waste for money but for now real reason is sickening.
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| Re: Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by Anonymous (5/10/08 12:33 PM) reply | + / - | Hey Waterboss thanks for your advice. I also have a MFC-7820N and following your instructions, after pushing 10, the "Accepted" message came up, DONE! In my case no further pressing or opening/closing was needed.
Great job you all here!
LEVL
PS: Where have you found the best price for this machine's toners?
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by Anonymous (5/14/08 11:14 PM) reply | + / - | My two Brother HL-5250DN are happy now the screws removed and the white flag gear that wants to fall out on you moved to the correct position good thing i kept all my old cartriges A big thanks again hehe go Techies ...
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by Anonymous (5/19/08 10:04 AM) reply | + / - | You guys are geniuses. It worked for me as well. 5250dn. What a rip off this whole cartridge, toner business is. Thank you x 100
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by Anonymous (6/12/08 4:54 PM) reply | + / - | HL-2070N worked!
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by thibaulthalpern (6/15/08 2:08 PM) reply | + / - | Can someone help me figure out where the sensor hole is for the HL-5250DN? I'm not very savvy about these things and I can't seem to locate it. I'm also trying to get more usage out of the toner cartridge. Thanks!
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| Help with MFC-9840CDW toner reset by bubernak (6/17/08 11:25 AM) reply | + / - | I've got a MFC-9840CDW also and tried covering up the holes on both sides (first tried just the one on the gear side, then both) of my black toner cartridge when I started getting the low toner indicator, but it wouldn't work. Is there something else you guys with a MFC-9840CDW are doing to get the indicator to reset? I'm sure I'm covering up the right holes. Someone mentioned covering up the holes in the cartridge tray, I guess I can try that also, but if whoever has a MFC-9840CDW and gotten this trick to work could either email me at (mike.bubernak@lmco.com) or post back here, that would be great because now I'm getting a low toner indicator on all three of the color cartridges! Which makes me very suspicous.
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| Toner Drum Corona Wire Message by Anonymous (6/19/08 7:57 AM) reply | + / - | I bought a new drum and it still says to clean the corona drum wire. I followed instruction and cleaned each time but still does not work. Any ideas?
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by ghar523 (6/24/08 9:53 PM) reply | + / - | Can someone help me find out where the sensor hole is for the HL-5140? I can't seem to locate it.
Thank you!
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by fishyink (6/25/08 7:50 PM) reply | + / - | i had the same thing, clean corona drum wire.. if moving the blue thing side to side try using a compresor and blowing the corona wire and grid it worked for me. dont put the drum is sunlight or expose to much light for long periods or u will damage it.
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 | Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by Brett In SoCal (6/29/08 4:57 PM) reply | + / - | Brother MFC 9440CN Toner Life End Message... The Final Solution!!!
Having gratefully read about how to defeat the toner sensor window with black electrical tape, I went to work.
Sadly, I was crushed to discover that performing this operation did not solve the problem for my accursed unit.
[Do it anyway as it will save you from these annoyingly premature warnings in future!]
Reading further, I became convinced that a reset process similar to that used to solve this problem for the Brother 2040 and 7420 models was also required here.
With nothing more to go on than responses to my emails from the good people (knuckleheads) at Brother telling me only how to install a new cartridge, I began poking around on my own 'till, after much swearing and gnashing of teeth, I figured it out:
1. With power on, open the toner access main door (You will get a "door open" message in the LCD.)
2. Hit the "Clear/Back" button and... ta-dah!!! you go right to the “Toner Reset Menu” (cue Vienna Boy's choir sounds here).
3. Using the up ^ Down > "Search" arrow buttons, you can then scroll through reset options for each of the printer's [4] toner cartridges!
Code: B. = black; C. = cyan; M. = magenta and Y. = yellow
4. For each for these cartridges is the option to reset for low yield = S (small?) or High Yield = H
5. Using the number keypad, select option #1 (to reset each to the size you have installed.
6. Hit the "Clear/Back" button to get out of the menu, close door ad the problem is FINALLY solved.
Cheers!
b.
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by bubernak (6/30/08 12:41 PM) reply | + / - | Thanks for the tip, I have a 9840, but will have to try it to see if it works on mine as well. Does the 9440 use the TN-110/TN-115 toner cartridges? I too was unsuccessful with black electrical tape, but was able to get rid of the "low toner" warning and continue to use my old cartridges by removing one of the end pieces and resetting one of the gears, but this certainly sounds like a simpler solution!
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by Brett In SoCal (6/30/08 2:33 PM) reply | + / - | @buber...
Yes indeed... same cartridges.
I too looked at that link and had images of toner flying everywhere. Was pretty sure there was a simpler solution.
Oh, one more thing I meant to add about saving toner in the first place: you might want to try turning on the "Toner Save Mode" to stretch out your cartridge replacements.
Open Printers > go to your printer's icon > Printing Preferences...> Advanced Settings > select "Printer Functions" (far right icon) > select Toner Save Mode from menu >> turn "on".
Results look fine to me for daily use, though not suggested for grayscale or photo printing.
Best,
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by rusl (7/6/08 11:27 AM) reply | + / - | Thanks Very Much!
This worked for me using the HL-2040 with a single black tape over the clear plastic sensor hole on the non-gear side. Just printed my first (post out of toner light) page.
If this gets me another 500 pages I will be grinning because this is just the starter (half full) cartridge that came with it when I bought it.
Also I'm glad the solution is all hardware. I was worried it would be a software patch and since I'm using linux and most people windoze it wouldn't be easy. Great website, real need for this sort of thing!
Does anyone know about printers that just have a toner bottle you refill the supply yourself? Then you just buy bulk toner. I have this Toshiba photocopier from 1987 also that got great milage that way. I guess it doesn't fit the consumable cash cow business model though I bet anybody to offer a printer like that would have legions of loyal customers right away.
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| Re: Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by jasonbraatz (7/7/08 6:15 PM) reply | + / - | for a 7820N, I tried every trick, and the only one that works is this one, as Waterboss writes but here it is a little dressed up:
For MFC-7820N (using TN-350) displaying 'Toner Life End':
1. open front cover
2. while front cover is open and machine is on, push "options"
3. push start
4. (quickly) type in '1' then '0' (typing in "10") . if you are not quick enough in this step, start from the beginning
5. the machine says 'accepted'
6. toner goes and goes
it's odd that I had this problem shortly after using a replacement toner cartridge (real Brother) but a new 2nd party drum.. seems like Brother cuts up the toner too quickly because it works fine after this
Jason
Rossi & Rovetti
www.rossirovetti.com
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by Small Offices (7/13/08 10:34 AM) reply | + / - | Best write up I have ever seen on this subject, thanks to all for the information, great job. Be nice if Brother would just publish all the information and tell us what is going on.
Love the Brother printers, almost no paper jams. Have been using them from the HL-1240 thru the 1440, 5250DN, MFC-8660DN printers thru the years. Have bought at least 16 Brothers printers, love the low cost per copy. Watch for the printers on sale, new printers on sale are cheaper than buying replacement drums.
Reasonable quality paper helps, 22lb or 24lb works a little better than 20lb paper. 16lb paper works but don't use it except when required for special jobs.
Thanks to all.
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by Anonymous (7/27/08 9:25 PM) reply | + / - | Yay! It works! I have a Brother MFC-9840CDW that I just got last week. Had printed 650+ copies (about 2/3 black, the rest in color) when the black "low toner" started coming on. And then the dreaded "toner life ended".
Took me a bit to get it to work, and I'm still not sure which "hole" I was supposed to cover up. I ended up putting small pieces of duct tape over 3 different possible "holes". The first time I tried it with scotch tape over the square "window" and black-sharpied over that, but it didn't do anything. So, either I had the wrong spot or it needed something more solid like the duct tape.
Still, if someone who has done this successfully could clarify which place exactly needs to be taped over, that will make it easier for me to do the color cartridges when they start saying "low toner" too.
Thanks in advance! So happy I found this fix, thanks to the person on Amazon who shared this link in his review of the printer. And happy that it worked!
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| Re: Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by Rajnish Babbar (8/5/08 10:31 AM) reply | + / - | I have a Brother 7820n. I was running into the same problem. Thanks to this post, here is what I did and it worked just fine.
1. Open front cover
2. Press Start
3. push buttons 1 and 0 (for 10)
4. It says Accepted.
5. The printer printed beautifully afterward.
That was it... Hope it helps someone else. Regards
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by kmoffat (8/5/08 11:51 AM) reply | + / - | How much life does this procedure add to the cartridges? Not sure if it's worth the time.
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by rims (8/8/08 5:00 AM) reply | + / - | I have a MFC-7220 which uses the TN-350 toner
I had a "End of toner life" message.
I covered up the reader holes. This did not work.
There is a "reset gear" you need to "flop over" for it to think there's a new toner in...You may need to roll the big black roller for it to move freely...
Here is link to a picture of what the gear looks like. It does not come with "starter" cartrages...
http://www.cdrdvdrmedia.com
have fun with that...
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by ShelleySanz (8/8/08 10:06 AM) reply | + / - | I've been using a combination of these procedures since I got my MFC-9840CDW printer a couple weeks ago. A few things to note. Even after putting tape over the sensor hole on the left, I sometimes still have gotten the low toner message later on, even when the output still looks fine. I covered the hole on the right (the plastic one) to get more life out of the cartridge. Taking the cartridge out and shaking it a bit sometimes helps too.
To answer the question above about whether this is worth the trouble, to me it certainly is because I now switch cartridges when the output shows me that the toner is running out -- not when some message tells me to do it! The additional number of prints you can get from this method will vary depending on how much coverage there is on your page. I have gotten at least 500 more prints since the first "toner low" message came on, and I have been printing almost full-page prints.
I do suggest changing to "toner save" mode if you're printing something that doesn't have to be at the very highest quality. It basically just prints lighter.
One thing I will say about this printer regarding the comments I've read about "it's just like having a Kinko's in your own office/home." Well, it is... and it isn't. The "cost-per-page" that I've read for this printer is something like 12 cents/page. Sounds much better than Kinko's, Staples, Office Depot (they all run from 29-49 cents/page on sale), right?
The problem is that the estimated pages-per-cartridge is based on an "industry standard" of 5% coverage. A Brother CSR explained to me that would be like a 1-inch solid square per page. Well, who prints that?! I am printing full-page, full-color flyers. And there's the difference -- if I print/copy these at Kinko's, I pay the same price whether every inch of the page is covered in color, or only one inch is.
I like the convenience of having this printer at home. Cost-wise, though, I most likely could save some money going to Kinko's. Especially for full-color, big jobs. As quickly as I've gone through toner (even using all the tricks I learned on this forum, which have helped a lot, and even after finding the least expensive place to buy toner online -- Provantage dot com), I would guess it's costing me about 25-35 cents/page. I have not been using the "toner save" though -- hopefully I can reduce the cost by using that more.
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| Re: Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by Anonymous (8/8/08 6:42 PM) reply | + / - | A quick analysis here...
I print very basic text pages and am getting around 3300+ pages per toner.
A Toner being about $63.00ea for 3300 prints and a drum being about $102.00 for 15k+ prints works out to about 2.6 cents per print.
Divide the cost of the printer ($150.00) by the number of total prints I have on it so far (24k) and my TOTAL print cost works out to about 3.2 cents per print. And that's if the printer craps out at 24k prints. The longer it goes, the cheaper they get)
Of course you'd have to figure in electricity costs too, which would actually be pretty negligable at about $0.00006 per print. ($0.08 per KillowattHour / 1,200 PrintsPerHour) (The manual tells me that the printer peaks at 1k watts. This figure assumes it's peaking for the entire hour)
Getting the extra 500 or so prints out of each cartradge and you could possibly get your print costs down to about 2.8 cents per print which, at this point, would have already translated into $96.00 for me so far...If this printe makess it to 37k prints it will have paid for the cost of another printer...totally worth the 5 minutes it takes to put tape over the holes...Thanks guys.
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by kmoffat (8/8/08 7:12 PM) reply | + / - | That's an excellent analysis.
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by Astride (8/21/08 5:38 PM) reply | + / - | Have a HL 650D. Can you tell me exactly where this hole is? Is it on the right side of the toner cartridge, itself?
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by leathergurl (8/22/08 7:36 AM) reply | + / - | Okay, I feel really stupid but both sides of the toner cartridge look pretty much the same to me. Looking at the cartridge as it sits in the machine, which side is the "non-gear" side?
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| Re: Drum life has Ended? by Kay Haitch (8/22/08 9:38 AM) reply | +1 + / - | Leave your old drum unit in the printer. Then reset the drum counter, just as you are told to when installing a new drum. The old drum will now indicate it has 100% life left. And it will print perfectly for another 20,000 pages. That's another year for me. (I wouldn't do this trick on the same drum a second time, as parts may start to wear out and cause damage to the printer.) I discovered this when I was replacing the drum with a new one, and mistakenly put the old one back in - and it kept working. Saves you up to $180!
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by jaredtrice (8/22/08 11:00 AM) reply | + / - | Where exactly is the sensor located on a Brother MFC-3220C?
Also, what does it look like?
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by Temporary Tom (8/22/08 11:29 AM) reply | + / - | jaredtrice,
I'm also curious if I can find a similar fix for my (second) MFC-3360C multi-function unit. My first worked great for a couple years, then started spitting pages out half-printed. Paper-feed trigger wasn't damaged. Nearest service site is 3 hours away, so I only talked with a printer tech there over the phone and he admitted he hadn't a clue why it might be doing that.
So I bought another one, they are cheap after all. Next one showed up, I swapped the previously just fine printer cartridges, but the new printer error message read "no cartridge installed". So I popped brand new, out of the package ones in, and it read the same thing. Brother's service said that occasionally happened with "non-Brother" brand cartridges, but never seemed to be a problem with Brother cartridges.
I paid the UPS rate to send it to the service site. The tech called a few days later to say the problem was fixed, but the cartridges I sent were "bad", and since they didn't want to pay for cartidges themselves did I want to buy them so he could verify that it was fixed? No.
So it's on its way back to me and I have little doubt it isn't going to work.
But looking at the cartridges, I notice there's a kind of indented, clear-plastic block-window that shows ink level. When my printer comes back I'm going to explore how to black this out and see if that helps...if it's just a cartridge sensor problem.
Very much Appreciate the article! It's actually pretty unsettling the company managers often feel it's ok to scam their customers for profit. I'm sure they tell themselves it's no big deal, and go home to their family's and civic clubs and such and think they're perfectly wonderful people. But the reality is that doing dishonest, scammy things means you're basically a dishonest, scammy person. Or company.
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by hagan (8/22/08 2:21 PM) reply | +2 + / - | since i finally figured this out I thought I would post this for anyone who has the
HL-4040 CN printer - or one similar
After seeing the hitting the buttons with the door open tricks for different models I tried anything that sounded like it had the same buttons my 4040 has... nothing on here worked so I just started hitting combinations of buttons with the door open - wow there are quite a few hidden menus there
For the toner life reset menu:
1 Open the front cover of the printer
2 press and hold the cancel button
3 press the reprint button while still holding cancel
- here is the reset menu - go to the appropriate cartridge on
- the menu and reset it and you're done!
FYI... Pressing the "Go" button and the up arrow gives you the parts life reset menu (drum, laser, fuser, etc.)
I also did the electric tape over the windows - which worked before the reset - but I thought this fact would be helpful too.
For anyone that is asking "what window?" I think it is the clear plastic opening on the sides of the cartridges where you can actually see the powder inside the cartridge - the color of the toner (magenta, yellow, or cyan). I didnt really know that for sure when I tried, but it made sense, and it worked. So I am fairly sure that is the "window" you should be trying to cover.
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by paulv (8/22/08 6:27 PM) reply | + / - | I have TN 330 toner cartridge from a Brother HL-2140. Would you please tell me in more detail where the sensor hole is? Thank you.
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by erlene James (8/23/08 3:11 PM) reply | + / - | Where is the toner hole (to be covered) on the HL-2040?
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| Re: Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by Anonymous (8/23/08 6:47 PM) reply | + / - | If you find out please let me know as i have the same printer. Thanks!
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by Anonymous (8/23/08 7:09 PM) reply | + / - | does this trick work on brother mfc 440cn printers????
already replace black once and one of the colors already
does it work on colors, also???
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by Anonymous (8/23/08 7:20 PM) reply | + / - | You are a genius!! Thanks for the tip!
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by kiten1313 (8/23/08 7:29 PM) reply | + / - | Does this work on other printers as well? I have a lexmark Z22 and am always running out of ink.
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| Re: Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by Anonymous (8/23/08 7:55 PM) reply | + / - | I have brother hl-2040. Can't find clear plastic hole on non gear side. Have clear plastic "ring" around a black center. If that's it, do I cover the whole thing(clear part) or just the center??
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| Re: Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by Anonymous (8/23/08 7:57 PM) reply | + / - | I have brother hl-2040. Can't find clear plastic hole on non gear side. Have clear plastic "ring" around a black center. If that's it, do I cover the whole thing(clear part) or just the center??
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by lcplemh1123 (8/23/08 8:07 PM) reply | + / - | i have a brother mfc 665 any tips on how to trick my printer?
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by lcplemh1123 (8/23/08 8:09 PM) reply | + / - | i have a brother mfc 665 any tips on how to trick my printer?
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by Anonymous (8/23/08 8:20 PM) reply | + / - | You are a rock star! Thanks for posting! - JM
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| Re: Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by Anonymous (8/23/08 8:35 PM) reply | + / - | I have a brother MFC 7420, does this apply to this model also
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by MESA GIRL (8/23/08 8:55 PM) reply | + / - | I WAS READ YOUR POST AND WAS WONDERING IF IT WOULD WORK ON LEXMARK X2500 IF YOU KNOW ANY THING PLEASE LET ME KNOW THANKS
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| Re: Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by Anonymous (8/23/08 9:08 PM) reply | + / - | I have a 420CN, so must be similar to your 440. do not know if you got a responce to your question but I have gone the other route to cut down on cartridge costs. I buy bulk ink from printersink.com and inject it into the supposedly depleted cartridge...have not figured what that cost is per but WAY less than buying brand name ones. I still would like to know if there is a trick to your 440...I take it that it is and injet printer like my 420. Anyway nice to have ways to get around the ungodly cost of cartridges.
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 | Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by chaligal (8/23/08 9:30 PM) reply | +1 + / - | Anybody found a way to "trick" the Epson Stylus CX6000 inkjet printer? This thing uses ink like crazy...I am CONSTANTLY having to change the ink. Once its "says" its low, you cannot print anything...any tips would be greatly appreciated!!!
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by blueyes467 (8/23/08 9:48 PM) reply | + / - | Does anyone know if we can do this to a Lexmark printer cartridge? I'm so tired of paying $60 every couple months...it would be wonderful to bypass these cartridges as well, and get more use from them when I know full well that they are not empty.
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by Alan Lambert (8/23/08 9:56 PM) reply | + / - | Could someone post a picture of the sensor hole please?---Is it the square hole on the non-gear side, which is matched by one on the gear side???
Thanks
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by ClancyBA (8/23/08 10:51 PM) reply | + / - | What about a KodakESP3
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by ClancyBA (8/23/08 10:54 PM) reply | + / - | What about a KodakESP3
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| Re: Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by Anonymous (8/23/08 11:57 PM) reply | + / - | you are a genius.
worked for me.
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by rchrdfire (8/24/08 12:47 PM) reply | + / - | How about the TN-430
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by irish (8/24/08 5:45 PM) reply | + / - | How about HP Officejet J6450?
Shh, I don't want it to hear me.
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by easygoingimp (8/26/08 7:35 AM) reply | + / - | Does anyone have experience with the Brother MFC-5660CN Cartridges?
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by AmeriToner (8/26/08 1:11 PM) reply | + / - | If you are using an aftermarket cartridge without the sensor window make sure the tab on the side is facing approximately 10am and not 3pm. Many of the Brother models are finnicky on a cartridge replacement. I always 1. unplug the Brother. 2. Take out cartridge. 3. Put new cartridge in but leave the door open. 4. Plug in machine and close door.
Seems to work most of the time
Stuart
AmeriToner.com
888-276-1579 x210
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by JUPPO (8/28/08 8:42 AM) reply | + / - | I want to override toner replacement on a Brother laser HL1400. Anyone know a semi-permanent technique such as the electrical-tape-over for my machine? I used a page reset code, but it's a pain to do it every time I want to print. I don't see an eye or a white switch that is mentioned on other Brothers. Here's the page count reset I'm using if anyone wants it:
1. Open the front cover and leave open while completing the following steps.
2. Turn the printer off.
3. Hold the 'go' button while turning the printer on. All panel lights should be on.
4. Release the 'go' button.
5. Press the 'go' button 2 times.
6. Pause.
7. Press the 'go' button 5 times.
8. The toner light should be off.
9. The paper light should be on or flashing.
10. Close cover. The ready light should be the only light on.
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by saagpaneer (9/3/08 1:54 PM) reply | + / - | Thanks for the tip in the original post. FYI, it also works for the Brother HL-4070CDW, and I'd guess for the HL-4050CDN.
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| To clarify ... by saagpaneer (9/3/08 2:00 PM) reply | + / - | For the HL series:
1 Open the front cover of the printer
2 press and hold the cancel button
3 press the reprint button while still holding cancel
- here is the reset menu - go to the appropriate cartridge on
- the menu and reset it and you're done!
FYI... Pressing the "Go" button and the up arrow gives you the parts life reset menu (drum, laser, fuser, etc.)
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by hagan (9/3/08 6:40 PM) reply | + / - | sagg... Yeah I did some checking and that combo of button pressing that I happened upon should work for all HL series Brothers from what I can tell.
I am going to try to make a list of the hidden menus for my own reference. If I dont I will need them for sure later and have to start over again. When I get it, I'll post it here.
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by hagan (edited 9/3/08 8:24 PM) reply | + / - | I also found a site from someone who took DESCRIPTIVE pics of an INKJET cartridge and what to cover up.... :)
THIS one is for INKJETS though as you can obviously tell when you view the page at this link:
journal.drfaulken.com/trick-your-brother-inkjet-into-working-when-an-i nk-cartridge-runs-dry/
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by hagan (edited 9/3/08 8:06 PM) reply | + / - | I am still looking for something for laser printers that might help ... like i said I just guessed what to cover and it worked :) I didnt know for sure what anyone was talking about with the "window" - Could it be a coincidence and I covered up the wrong thing? Maybe... and then all this typing below would be worthless :(
look for a clear round plastic piece on the side of the toner cartridge (on mine it is on both sides i dont know if it is the same on all) everything else will be black plastic and this will be clear - you should be able to see the actual color of the toner through this clear round plastic part if there is any toner in there and its not empty (which is why were all here) - like this... if it is the cyan cartridge you should be able to see blue powder through this clear part on the side, if its yellow cartridge you should see yellow powder and so on - tilt the cartridge back and forth and look at the side to watch for the powder (toner) to cover up the clear hole when you tilt it that way - i took electric tape and put it right over this part on both sides then magically (after turning the printer off and on) I could print - from looking at pics of different laser toner cartridges online, they all look to be pretty similar so I would think this would be pretty close to accurate for most of them - the HL 4040 that i have uses the TN115 cartridges or the high yield version.
i think it only matters if you cover a "window" on one side of the cartridge though - according to what i read a light is sent all the way through the cartridge and if it is "sensed" on the other side it "thinks" the cartridge is empty - so covering up the "window" on either side of the cartridge will block the light from making it through
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| Re: Brother HL 1440 also by tbill (9/4/08 4:41 PM) reply | + / - | tried your black electrical tape trick on mine under the same circumstances.. removed the cartridge and placed small pieces of elec tape over small circular holes on either side of the cartridge holder, rather than the cartridge itself. Alarm buttons went off immediately and it is printing up a storm.
thanks much guys.
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by marcel_id (9/8/08 9:57 AM) reply | + / - | Hi,
OK, have a Brother 5250DN, Toner light on, although filled cartridge in printer.
Will refuse printing.
Covered all sensor holes, that did not help.
Put a brand-new cartridge in, now all is fine, light is off, printing goes again.
And then , here the trick: put the other cartridge back in -> voila, now it works.
Not sure if I understand this one, but hey, it worked for me!
enjoy the cartridge ride . .
Marcel
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| No Subject by Anonymous (9/8/08 12:52 PM) reply | +1 + / - | Hello ppl, I had just solved my problem, when my Brother laser printer DCP-7010 was started showing toner life end. So u ppl do two things. 1. Stick the black electrical tape over the two eyes of your printer sensor, which detect cartridge toner inside.
2. And again move ur cartridge gear like white button to the circular left side. This can be easily done by opening cartridge
left side small cover.
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| Re: Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by Anonymous (9/8/08 3:28 PM) reply | + / - | You are the BOMB! Thanks for not giving up and finding a solution. I was racking my head against the wall after trying the electrical tape method on my MFC 9840CDW with no success and the Toner Life End message continuing to plague my dreams!
I owe you a beer!
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| Re: Re: Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner over by BrettinSoCal (9/8/08 11:11 PM) reply | + / - | Fight the man!!!
I am otherwise very happy with the product... in fact, have since purchased a 2nd new model 2140 for $45 (Staples) and LOVE it too... but this toner thing really made me feel taken advantage of...
Enough!!! ;-D
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| Re: Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by AdrienneL (9/9/08 10:54 AM) reply | +1 + / - | Thank you!!!! I have a 4070 and your trick worked perfectly!
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| Can't Find the Sensor on the Cartridge by Anonymous (9/9/08 8:55 PM) reply | + / - | I have a Brother HL-2040 and can't find the sensor I should put tape over. Could someone let me know exactly what it looks like and where it is. I'm not very tech-savvy.
Thanks.
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| Re: Brother MFC 9440 CN leaving marks on paper by Gold City PS (9/10/08 12:01 AM) reply | + / - | Our Brother printer MFC9440 CN is leaving marks all over our printing like splatters everywhere. We have cleaned the drum unit but it still leaves all the marks. Any ideas?
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by Anonymous (9/10/08 12:15 PM) reply | + / - | Could you tell me where the sensor hole is - what does it look like? I don't see it anywhere. Do I take the toner out of the drum - it is on the toner cartridge or drum? Would red duct tape work or does it have to be black?
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by TylerDurdenPrinterUs (9/10/08 3:05 PM) reply | + / - | Confirmed trick on the MFC-8460N. Saved my office and my job. TAKE THAT BROTHER!
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by Anonymous (9/11/08 11:53 AM) reply | + / - | I taped over the window on the cartridges for the Brother MFC-685CW and it worked. There's ink in ther still
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by Anonymous (9/12/08 1:36 AM) reply | + / - | Warning! Please read this remark carefully.
People in this forum have found out all kind of tricks to override “toner empty/toner end of live messages”. The reason you still can print with an almost empty cartridge is a mechanical one. The remaining toner prevents possible mechanical problems. In other words, the remaining toner has a smearing function, it works like “oil” in the toner cartridge. There is a possibilty that the tonercartridge stops turning around in case of covering both "eyes". As a possible result, the toner drive gears inside the machine all will be destroyed! End of machine live!! Another reason is to prevent leakage of the toner unit. The developer roller has mechanical limits and its developed for a certain amount of cycles. Conclusion: there is no commercial reason for Brother, but just to prevent mechanical problems.
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| Re: Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by ladyolene (9/17/08 6:20 PM) reply | + / - | Exactly where is this window on the cartridge tray? My Brother MFC9840CDW is saying "Toner Life End" with new hi-capacity cartridges just installed.
Thanks Everyone
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by Anonymous (9/21/08 6:02 PM) reply | + / - | The reset as posted by Hagan worked GREAT on my HL-4070CDW. I also taped over the clear windows on both sides of the cartridge
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by tsatiyeh (9/24/08 7:31 AM) reply | +1 + / - | For the Brother HL-4070cdw, if you get the Tone Life End message, and are no longer allowed to print, try this...
1) Open the front door - the message 'Cover is Open' will appear.
2) Press and hold the cancel button.
3) Press the Reprint button - the message 'Reset Parts Life' should appear.
4) Then do the following:
B.TNR-H - accepted should display. Press ^
B.TNR-S - accepted should display. Press ^
Y.TNR-H - accepted should display. Press ^
Y.TNR-S - accepted should display. Press ^
M.TNR-H - accepted should display. Press ^
M.TNR-S - accepted should display. Press ^
C.TNR-H - accepted should display. Press ^
C.TNR-S - accepted should display. Press ^
5) Cancel
6) Close the front door.
You should be able to print, assuming your HL-4070cdw still has toner and drum life left.
I believe the above sequence clears the toner for Black, Yellow, Magenta and Cyan for the High capacity or Standard capacity toner cartridge.
None of the stats for your printer will be reset (ie Image Count, Drum Count, Drum Life, Belf Life, PF KitMPLife, PF Kit|Life, Fuser Life or Laser life) and your print totals will still be unchanged (ie Toner page count, color page count, monochrome page count).
Tom
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| brother mfc 7220 bad drum and ink issue by khatsmeow (9/25/08 11:29 AM) reply | + / - | I have no idea how to find the sensor on my machine to black out with a marker or tape to get more prints. also, my drum is bad after owning the machine 6 months! I called staples where I bought it and the extended warranty of course (which i was assured would cover everything) and of course the drum isn't covered. They want to charge me $159.00 for a new drum. Please please please give me detailed instructions on how I can extend my ink and fix this drum issue.
my faxes are coming out with a black line on the left side of every page.
thank you oh so much!
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| Re: Brother inkjet printer by WS Cheang (9/25/08 7:52 PM) reply | + / - | Has anyone tried to overide Brother DCP 135C inkjet printer?
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by Anonymous (9/27/08 10:27 AM) reply | + / - | I have brother-240C printer with LC51 Cartridges. Can't find hole or censor to tape or mark it black.
Can anyone post video on "YOUTUBE" showing cartridge how they did it. That would be way better than saying "It Worked".
Everyone have diff. model of brother.
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge MFC-240C by Parminder (9/27/08 10:30 AM) reply | + / - | How many of you posted video on "YOUTUBE" how you guys did it succesfully as Thanx?
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by Anonymous (10/7/08 3:17 PM) reply | + / - | Excuse me, does anybody know if this works for a MFC9840CDW? I bought high yield toners two days ago and now the printer says the toners are low. I appreciate it.
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| Re: Re: Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner over by HandsOn/BrainOff (10/8/08 1:36 PM) reply | + / - | I finally resolved this problem on my HL-2040 by resetting the "toner empty" mechanical flag on the side of the cartridge. I had to remove three screws to remove the plate that covers the gearing, and then manually move a white plastic gear about 90 degrees counter clockwise so that indicator "arm" was pointing to about 10'oclock (it was at 3 o'clock before adjusting it). The whole procedure took about 5 minutes.
Many thanks to all who posted their tips.
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by Toots (10/9/08 9:40 AM) reply | + / - | Whoever originally posted this, thank you SO much! It helped initially to just bang my yellow cartridge; but now all the banging isn't helping and I can plainly see toner happily floating around in there through the little portholes, sort of taunting me. I've been looking all over for the sensors so that I can put some tape over the bad boys and be done with it, but can't find 'em. I've got a Brother HL-4070cdw model, and of course the owner's manual is not offering info on where to find the little buggers. Can anyone help me, PLEASE??!! Thanks!
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| Re: Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by mzinn (10/9/08 3:18 PM) reply | + / - | I'm very skeptical of your defense of Brother with slanted wording about following the "tricks" on this forum. You say "tricks" to devalue the practical advice for people who desperately need it. For me, as I'm sure it is for others, having to replace the color cartridges at the rate the printer specifies is cost prohibitive, mechanical failure notwithstanding. So the choice becomes either to follow the advice on this forum or to throw out my Brother printer and buy one more affordable to maintain. I'm guessing that following the advice to reset page counters for toner usage would greatly benefit the pocketbooks for those who need it, at the expense of Brother's revenue. Perhaps that is the real justification for your so-called warning.
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by Anonymous (10/11/08 10:05 AM) reply | + / - | I just did this with a TN-330 cartridge for a Brother HL-2170W printer. I didn't have any electrical tape, so I simply colored in the window with a black Sharpie. Printing now. :)
Thanks for the tips!!
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by jvanke (10/13/08 3:19 PM) reply | + / - | Big Brother wants us to buy toner before we need it. My Sharpie wasn't flexible enough in the HL-2170 window, but I happened to have a craft store .5 mm permanent pen that did the trick. Thanks!
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by Toots (10/13/08 7:10 PM) reply | + / - | I'm still waiting for someone to share with me where the sensors are on the Brother HL-4070cdw model so that I can cover them up and be done with all these false "out of toner" messages and printer shutdowns. Anyone have this model that can help me out here? Thanks:)
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by adeem (10/15/08 7:29 AM) reply | + / - | I just used the electrical tape trick for my Brother MFC-7840W model. I put a small piece of black tape over the sensor on the non-gear side of the cartridge (the sensor is a hole with a clear round casing around it..the whole thing is about the size of a dime) and it works like a charm now.
Thanks for the tips everyone!
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by Toots (10/15/08 4:29 PM) reply | + / - | Thanks for that info:) Just to be clear, is that the one where you can see the toner, like a little window?
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| Re: Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by Anonymous (10/16/08 11:26 AM) reply | +2 + / - | Hagan thank you for posting that for HL-4040CN. It worked!
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by Anonymous (10/16/08 8:35 PM) reply | +1 + / - | i have brother mfc9420 say low toner after i put in a new one
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| Re: Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by Trose (10/21/08 11:13 PM) reply | + / - | Thanks, tsatiyeh! Your solution worked perfectly for my HL-4070CDW.
Little things that I didn't catch the first time I tried to reset the cartridges:
- You have to continue to hold "Cancel" when you press "Reprint"
- At each label I had to press "OK" twice to reset before pressing ^ to progress to the next cartridge
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by Ralph A. Faillace (10/23/08 9:35 AM) reply | + / - | I have a Samsung ML1430 laser printer that stopped printing and the Toner Save and Error buttons keep flashing. I refilled a cartridge with toner and it worked for a while, but again it stopped printing and the lights are flashing again. Is it possible to use the tape as mentioned for other printers, and if so, please advise where to find the sensors and reset gears. Thank You
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by kevin bernal (10/25/08 1:14 AM) reply | + / - | hi guys... just want to say thanks you for making this thread 'cause it worked for me (my printer is dcp-150c)!!!! I just put a small electrical tape (cut lengthwise) and covered the cartridge as shown here:
http://img515.imageshack.us/my.php?image=asdjc5.jpg
sorry for the low resolution picture.. just used a webcam...
Many thanks!!!!!
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by arizonabrat (10/25/08 9:24 AM) reply | + / - | hi i have brother 9840cdw and i have tried what everyone says about covering i have covered an entire side of the cartidge holder and still nothing says i need to replace everything which i know cant be true anyone have a picture of what holes i am supposed to be covering
thanks
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| Re: Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by arizonabrat (10/25/08 4:58 PM) reply | + / - | can you help i have same printer and STILL not working
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge flag gear re-set by davagain (edited 10/25/08 6:33 PM) reply | + / - | Some brother cartridges use what is called a "flag gear". The gear turns slowly every time the cartridge is used. When it gets to the end of its range, a spring stops it from turning further and the printer will not print until the cartridge is replaced. When a cartridge is refilled, this flag gear must be reset or printer will think the cartridge is still empty and it will not work. You can also squeeze some extra life out of a used cartridge using this method. Caution: in cartridges that have a built-in waste toner reservoir, resetting the flag gear can result in continuing to print when the reservoir is full and spilling waste toner into your printer. This can ruin your printer, so be careful. In printers that have a separate waste toner receptacle, this is not an issue.
I just had this flag gear issue on a MFC-9840CDW, so I am going to give instructions for that cartridge.
1. Orient cartridge so that you are looking at the end of the cartridge with the developer roller to your left. (This is the opposite end from the filler cap). You should see 2 phillips head screws, one at the top right, one at the bottom left. You should also see part of the gray flag gear through an opening in the end cap.
2. Remove screws and the end cap they were holding in place (one or 2 gears may fall out when you do this, but they should be simple to pop back into place).
3. Note attachment point of the spring over flag gear, then temporarily remove it so you can reset the gear.
4. Remove the flag gear and reinstall it so that its teeth are just beginning to mesh with the adjoining gear.
5. Reinstall the spring.
6. Reinstall the end cap.
DONE
This is MUCH easier to do than to describe, like tying your shoelaces. Once you have done it and know what to look for, the entire process should take less than 1 minute.
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| Re: Re: Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner over by davagain (10/25/08 6:41 PM) reply | + / - | see my post about resetting the flag gear in the printer cartridge.
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| Re: Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by davagain (10/25/08 6:45 PM) reply | + / - | see my post about resetting the flag gear. its very simple.
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by toots (10/25/08 6:47 PM) reply | + / - | Thanks for that latest posting. Do you know how to tell if your printer has the built-in waste toner reservoir or a separate waste toner receptacle? I have a Brother HL-4070cdw - if that info is in the owner's manual, then I've missed it so far:)
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| Re: Help with MFC-9840CDW toner reset by davagain (10/25/08 6:48 PM) reply | + / - | see recent post about resetting flag gear
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| Re: Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by davagain (10/25/08 6:58 PM) reply | + / - | The 9840CDW, a very similar unit to the 4080, has similar re-set functions. In order to get into that menu on the 9840, open the door and press the "Clear/Back" button.
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| Re: Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by davagain (10/25/08 7:03 PM) reply | + / - | the 4070 has a separate waste toner receptacle that is rated for 20,000 pages (and costs about $18 to replace). You do not have to worry about spilling waste toner due to resetting your cartridge.
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by peacenet (10/26/08 9:42 PM) reply | + / - | So this was a well-known issue on Brother laser printers... I was actually waiting for my HL-4070CDW to be delivered, and when I learned about this premature toner disposal issue, I had felt a distant sense of alarm. I had chosen this model over the Hewlett Packard CP1518ni mainly because they said hp's CP1518ni toner wore off much faster, so I had thought Brother would come up more economic in the long end.
When somebody pointed out, "How come all the three color toners can wear off at the same time?" my first reaction was like, "What?!"
Anyway, thanks for all the valuable information, guys. Now I think I can stop worrying about whether to return this to the retailer. :-)
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by zikster (10/27/08 10:41 AM) reply | + / - | I have TN 330 toner cartridge from a Brother HL-2140. Would you please tell me in more detail where the sensor hole is? Thank you.
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| HELPPPPPPP! by Anonymous (10/27/08 1:50 PM) reply | + / - | what's about HL-2140 printer. Mine is running low on the toner....How can i trick my printer??????
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by arizonabrat (10/28/08 12:43 PM) reply | + / - | ANYONE KNOW HOW TO FIND A MENU WHERE IT SHOWS YOU WHAT YOUR TONER LEVELS ARE
I HAVE BROTHER 9440 AND I CAN SEE PARTS FOR DRUM AND FUSE BUT NOTHING THAT WILL TELL ME WAHT % I AM ON TONERS
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| oops i have 9840 brother where is my toner levels by arizonabrat (10/28/08 12:53 PM) reply | + / - | sorry i have 9840
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by Ned Levine (10/30/08 12:42 PM) reply | + / - | I have a Brother MFC 9840CDW. I first got the Toner Low and then the Toner Life End message. After reading the various responses on this blog, I did the following to re-set the printer:
1. Turn on the printer
2. Push the button on the front of the printer to open the cartridge door. Don't remove the cartridges.
3. Push the Clear/Back button to bring up a reset menu. There are 8 different toner functions (for simplicity, two B's, two C's, two M's, and two Y's).
4. For each of these eight functions in turn, push the O.K. button and then push it again to indicate 'Reset'. After a few seconds, it will say 'Accepted' and will then display a message that the cover is open.
5. Repeat steps 3 and 4 for each of the 8 toner functions.
6. When finished, close the door and the status bar will be reset to normal with no error message.
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| Re: Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by Anonymous (11/6/08 9:00 AM) reply | + / - | I have the Brother HL-4070cdw model, and when I opened the cartridge door and attempted to push the buttons you suggested, the machine just kept displaying a message that the door was open and wouldn't respond to my pressing of any of the buttons you mentioned.
Does anyone else have other suggestions for getting around this?
Thanks!
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| Re: Re: Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by Ned Levine (11/6/08 9:16 AM) reply | + / - | I don't have the 4070cdw model, so it might be different than the 9840cdw. But, after the 'door open' message was displayed, I simply pushed the clear/back button to go back to the reset menu. The 'door open message the disappeared. If that doesn't work, try experimenting with variations of those commands. Most of the Brother printers have a software option for resetting toner settings. You don't need to do a mechanical ('tape') solution to reset the false toner messages.
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by mbartho1 (11/7/08 6:42 AM) reply | + / - | I have a Brother MFC685cw and what started as a bogus "Black Ink Empty" now is a "No Cartridge" Black error? I used the sharpie tip to get rid of the "Empty" error...which, btw, was after I inserted a new cartridge!!! Then I inserted a New, new Cartridge. Now that I got those to clear, I'm getting "No Cartridge" error. My printer has been working just fine and w/out warning, this nightmare started yesterday.... I have tried all of the above to find a reset menu and still can't find a combo for this.
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge stuck by Philippok (11/9/08 4:43 PM) reply | + / - | I can't remove the toner cartridge from my hl-2140 printer. It's stuck. I don't want to force it because I might break the plastic parts. Any suggestions?
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| brother hl 2170w toner low light by ayvonne71 (11/11/08 12:00 PM) reply | + / - | Where is the holes that you cover on this printer in order to get more toner out of your cartridge? Please help.
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by ayvonne71 (11/11/08 12:12 PM) reply | + / - | I covered the two clear windows on my HL 2170w and it worked. I just found this website and you guys are awesome. Thank you soooooooo much.
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by Anonymous (11/15/08 1:31 PM) reply | + / - | Same here with the 2030. Works fine!!!
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| Re: Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by Anonymous (11/16/08 2:55 PM) reply | + / - |
Thanks, this works for my 7820N.
I didn't do the second open/close cover after the "accepted".
The tape-over-hole didn't work in my case.
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| Brother 2070 N by bestewart1 (11/17/08 4:02 PM) reply | + / - | Nothing else worked for my 2070N except the following:
Keep the printer on
Open the front cover
Take out the toner
Hold 'Go' Until all LED's light up
Put in the toner
Close the cover
This worked for me with a non-OEM toner. It resets the toner counter on the printer.
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| Re: Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by Anonymous (12/1/08 8:48 AM) reply | + / - | Thank you Brett in SoCal.
I work for a company with 30 MFC-9440CN printers. Imagine how much money this will save my company.
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| Brother MFC-420CN-Color-LED reads NO CARTRIDGE by LiveWithLeslie (12/1/08 9:35 AM) reply | + / - | I have a Brother MFC-420CN, the one with four colors. All of the colors, Black, Yellow, Blue, are fine, except I received a LED notice that the Magenta was “NEAR EMPTY” (which it was not). I replaced it with a brand new cartridge, and now the LED message reads, “NO CARTRIDGE". I even went and purchased another brand new Magenta cartridge thinking that the other was defected, and this one - same thing. I just cannot get this LED display or the Brother machine to READ that there is a new cartridge in there. I called an authorized dealer, and he told me it may be the sensor...and to fix it, repair costs begins at $55.00+parts. I have unplugged the printer, turned it on/off, took all the cartridges out, then placed them all back in following the LED instructions, then answered YES when LED asked if it was replaced...I have even placed the wrong color cartridge into the Magenta slot, and it still does not read that there is a cartridge in there. Please advise soonest. Thank you.
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by Anonymous (12/2/08 5:29 PM) reply | + / - | YES! 4070CDW worked like a charm!
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by Anonymous (12/2/08 6:00 PM) reply | + / - | dude this is the best. for the HL-4070CDW. just cover the holes on the right side of the tray. if you are pulling the tray out, the right is on the right of course. the little holes that allow the 'sensor' to show through. just cover them up with tape or I used a torn off sticky pad, covered with scotch tape.
I 'ran out of yellow' covered that up, now its OK. if you look at the printer's configuration by using a webpage, I saw that Cyan was also 'low' stuck paper over that is gone. I mean the yellow had so much toner left it was sloshing around the inside. now we can run the toner out and see how much it really has!
Thanks!!!
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| Re: Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by Anonymous (12/6/08 7:43 AM) reply | + / - | I used this multi-step procedure and it worked on my HL-2040, but now I only get a couple inches of very light printout from any page (even the test page). I have refilled the toner cartridge successfully in the past and have the same problem with an older cartridge that still used to work. Any suggestions or thoughts?
Thanks.
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by Anonymous (12/6/08 10:25 AM) reply | + / - | MFC-9840cdw. First many thanks to those who posted - especially tsatiyeh.
Printer stopped due to no toner (print quality was fine). I used the black tape method frequently mentioned. Printer then worked but I kept getting an annoying "LOW TONER" message. tsatiyeh described a reset on another model - see that post.
Here's what I want to add to the discussion. On the MFC-9840cdw: To get to the reset options that tsatiyeh describes:
1) open the door as if you were going to change the toners
2) press the Clear/Back button
3) The Reset Menu appears!
4) I reset all of the TNR-S (four of them - one for each color)
5) all is well
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| Re: Re: Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by Brett In SoCal (12/9/08 4:16 PM) reply | + / - | You are most welcome.
I otherwise LOVE mine... works great.
That automated refill scheme struck me a borderline fraudulent.
Oh, and subsequent comments pertaining to the need to "leave some unused toner in the cartridge to prevent damaging the machine" are utter poppycock!
Enjoy!
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by Anonymous (12/9/08 5:03 PM) reply | + / - | This worked for me - I have a HL-2040. It resets the page counter:
1. Open the front cover and leave open while completing the following steps.
2. Turn the printer off.
3. Hold the 'go' button while turning the printer on. All panel lights should be on.
4. Release the 'go' button.
5. Press the 'go' button 2 times.
6. Pause.
7. Press the 'go' button 5 times.
8. The toner light should be off.
9. The paper light should be on or flashing.
10. Close cover. The ready light should be the only light on.
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by andrewonmaui (12/10/08 6:00 PM) reply | + / - | For the 7820N, I ran into the TONER LIFE END message numerous times.
I have used the trick whereby you open the front, press options, then 1-0 and start. This would buy me some time, but not much.
When I pulled the drum and toner out, I noticed a clear circular window on the right side of the device. Figuring this was the "sensor" that was causing my printer to want more expensive toner, I covered it with tape.
I pushed the toner / drum back in and it works perfectly. No warnings, no quality issues.
".....but still, I love technology."
-Kip Dynamite
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by Anonymous (12/13/08 12:15 PM) reply | + / - | I just covered both "eyes" on my toner cartridge for my Brother HL-2170W with electrical tape as described above. Worked like a treat. Thanks for the advice!
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by mistertablit (12/13/08 1:12 PM) reply | + / - | The brother hl-2170W has been a real POS for us for the most part. Wireless is spotty, support was bad, etc. When the low toner light came on only 350 sheets into the cartridge (when at 328, I'd seen it say it had more than 80% toner left on a setup page) I was ready to heave it out the window.
Found this thread. On the 2170, pull the black carrier and gray cartridge assembly out together. Remove the gray cartridge assembly. on the right side (as you removed it) there's a little clear plastic window. that's the thing to cover.
I used masking tape then colored it with a not particularly black marker. Still printing...
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| Re: Brother MFC-420CN-Color-LED reads NO CARTRIDGE by Anonymous (12/15/08 6:22 PM) reply | + / - | I just read your posting as I have the same problem with my Brothers MFC 420cn printer showing NEAR EMPTY or NO CARTRIDGE. I also replaced with new and still get the same response. Was wondering if you ever found a solution to the problem. Would appreciate an email if you did. (I realize the posting was a year ago) Thanks much!!
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by mara.vip (12/16/08 10:21 AM) reply | + / - | Works fine with Lexmark c500 toners.
Thanks!!!
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| Re: HELPPPPPPP! by uyluhgugu (12/19/08 12:43 AM) reply | + / - | I have a HL-2140 with the TN 330. You need to cover the hole in the middle of the toner (the one on the right side) with anything (i used a post-it note and colored it black) and it worked perfectly! Good luck!
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| Re: Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by Anonymous (12/20/08 3:55 PM) reply | + / - | Awsome post. Directions are perfect. This will save loads of cash as we have (3) of these units.
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| Re: Drum life has Ended? by joefumo (12/20/08 5:37 PM) reply | + / - | Can you tell me how you fixed your problem without replacing the drum unit? I couldn't tell from your answer.
I cleaned the laser scanner windows and corona wires of the cartridges, but still have streaks on large shaded areas such as the header row of a text box. Thanks.
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by JanusMelina (12/22/08 6:25 PM) reply | + / - | This worked like a charm for my HL-2040. Now, if I only had the previous two cartridges I've used.
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by kgreenboyg (12/27/08 6:48 PM) reply | + / - | ITS CHRISTMAS ALL OVER AGAIN~~Yepe!
It worked like a bugger on my MFC-9840
thanks ALL
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by mefoman (edited 12/28/08 10:28 AM) reply | + / - | Just recently got toner low warnings on all cartridges for Brother MFC 9440CN, so when I checked cost of replacement cartridges I was horrified.
So I bought 4 refill bottles which cost a ridiculous $190, $47 each for 130g of toner which must cost about $1 to manufacture.
On reading instructions it said you must empty cartridge of old toner before refilling as new toner may not be compatible with old toner and cause a chemical reaction.
I pulled plug from refill hole and tipped over trash can and expected about one spoonful of powder to come out.
The ceiling fan was on full and the next thing I knew the whole room was full of toner, MORE toner came out of the supposedly EMPTY cartridge than was in the refill bottle.
What a friggin con. These printer makers obviously set the warning way early to get you to buy more cartridges. It's a disgrace.
I have now used the information on this forum from "Brett In SoCal (posted 6/29/08 4:57 PM), see above, which has worked a treat. Don't ya just love genius's - thanks Bret you're a star.
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by ccfaith (12/31/08 12:17 PM) reply | + / - | I have the Brother DCP 7020 which uses the TN-350 cartridge.
I covered both "windows" with black tape, the two circular plastic openings on either end where you can see the toner inside.
I also covered the sensors inside the machine with black tape.
I did all of this, turned the machine off/on and it still says "Toner Life End".
I think the problem is with the gears, as this starter cartridge does not have the flag gear on it.
Does anyone know how to fix this specific model with a hidden reset menu or anything?
I have ordered a reset gear for it, but I really need to use it NOW! I have invoices that urgently need to go out.
Thank you,
CCFaith
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| Re: Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by Anonymous (12/31/08 12:27 PM) reply | + / - | LOL...I know what you mean! I also purchased toner refill for my Brother DCP 7020, and as you stated the instructions said "you MUST empty the cartridge of old toner before refilling." So, like you, I turned it up over the garbage can expecting a very small amount to come out and .....HOLY COW!! Like you said, I think there was more toner left inside my supposedly "empty" cartridge than there was in the refill bottle!
Had I known that beforehand, I would have emptied it into a container and recycled it back into my cartridge the next time.
Thanks for the laugh though, the bit about the ceiling fan cracked me up! When I was working on mine, my 3 year-old little girl kept saying, "Uh-oh! You make-a-de-mess!" LOL It really does go everywhere, so be careful guys, and wear old clothes.
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| Re: Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by mefoman (12/31/08 12:32 PM) reply | + / - | Go to http://uni-kit.com/support.htm and click on Download Toner Refill Instructions which will download a pdf. Then go to page 2 of pdf and it will show you how to reset the gears
hope this helps
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by Brett In SoCal (12/31/08 2:03 PM) reply | + / - | Update to [Brother MFC 9440CN Toner Life End Message... The Final Solution!!! ]
When last we spoke, I had just reset the counters on all 3 color cartridges using the technique posted in my comment of (6-29-08)
Simultaneously, I decided to enable the printer's "toner save mode" as the savings have proved well worth the minor degradation in print quality doing so causes.
Cut to now... I have just done enough printing to receive another "Low Color Toner" warning... with, of course, no actual end of toner in sight!
It had been so long, I had to go back to my earlier posting to remind myself what to do. The good news is that it again worked perfectly.
Doing so suggested this tip: regardless of what size cartridges you are using, reset each color's counter to the "H-high" setting as the point here is that we are waiting for the PRINTS to tell us when a cartridge really needs replacement... not our beloved machine's bogus counters!
Cheers!
b.
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| Re: Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by Anonymous (1/4/09 11:40 AM) reply | + / - | I bouught a new toner cartridge and after installing it the printer would not work. The toner light stayed on. I followed your procedure and reinstalled the printer driver software. The printer is now working.
Thanks for the advice. I am impressed.
Ken
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| Re: Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by Anonymous (1/6/09 7:33 PM) reply | + / - | Thanks Tom.
And for those who are a little more technically oriented, the following link will show how to physically reset the "counter gear" on a TN-110 or TN-115 cartridge. This reset gear is what causes the printer to realize a new cartridge has been inserted.
www.uninetimaging.com/newsletter/Brother_HL_4040_TN_115_Reman_eng.pdf
Do pages 7 and 8, then jump to page 12 to see how to reposition the counter gear and replace the gear cover.
DON'T DISMANTLE THE WHOLE CARTRIDGE ! !
For those trying to locate the "holes to tape over", they are the clear plastic "plugs" on each end of the cartridge. You only need to tape over the one that is easy to reach.
For those trying to find the "reset switch" on a 4070, quit looking. It's buried inside and cannot be activated manually. Resetting the "counter gear" (above) will activate the reset switch. And it must me done for EACH cartridge, as needed. Meaning you don't have to do them all at once.
Y'all have fun, now. Ya heah!
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| Re: Re: Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by Anonymous (1/9/09 7:24 PM) reply | + / - | This is my post from August... I have seen it worked with 4070 as well as the 4040 that I have... I know it can get a little hard to scroll through this whole page looking for this stuff.
Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by hagan (8/22/08 2:21 PM) reply + / -
since i finally figured this out I thought I would post this for anyone who has the
HL-4040 CN printer - or one similar
After seeing the hitting the buttons with the door open tricks for different models I tried anything that sounded like it had the same buttons my 4040 has... nothing on here worked so I just started hitting combinations of buttons with the door open - wow there are quite a few hidden menus there
For the toner life reset menu:
1 Open the front cover of the printer
2 press and hold the cancel button
3 press the reprint button WHILE still holding cancel
- here is the reset menu - go to the appropriate cartridge on
- the menu and reset it and you're done!
FYI... Pressing the "Go" button and the up arrow gives you the parts life reset menu (drum, laser, fuser, etc.)
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| Re: Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by Anonymous (1/10/09 7:52 PM) reply | + / - | You da man! I figured out the optical, but the reset I never woulda thought of. thanx
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by Anonymous (1/11/09 10:53 AM) reply | + / - | Genius .. electric tape works great
THANK YOU
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by Anonymous (1/12/09 7:29 PM) reply | + / - | Well done. Good work. Thanks .
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by 8660DN help (1/13/09 10:39 AM) reply | + / - | I have a 8660DN printer and I refilled my toner cartridge a few days ago and now when the printer prints it squeaks? I had refilled this printer with no problems before. Any suggestions on how to fix.
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by drunice (1/14/09 11:33 AM) reply | + / - | I have been reading everything but I didn't see any information regarding the brother 420cn, so I put tape on the ink cartridge, I found a hole in the bottom and taped it like everyone else did. IT WORKED! It now says it is near empty instead of empty and I am printing again!
THANK YOU!
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| Re: Re: Brother toner cartridge flag gear re-set by Hayman (1/15/09 3:48 PM) reply | + / - | I have a Brother 2170W and have refilled the cartridge twice so far. Now the toner light stays on all the time and have covered the sensor holes with black tape. Any suggestions? What about a flag gear on this? If so how do you fix that?
Thanks
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by printerresetter (1/15/09 5:36 PM) reply | + / - | I'm so happy I found this forum. I use a TN-350 toner and it died out on me at 2400 pages (and I just got it last year). I was *about* to go out and buy a new toner but then I thought "Why not go online and try to find a solution?".
This was the third website I found about fixing a toner. Like this one and many others, it told me to cover the clear plastic holes. But that didn't work for me. I was getting frustrated cause it seemed to work on everyone else's printer. But then later I used the reset method (mentioned above), and it worked!
And I'm soooo happy cause I know I will get a couple more hundred pages with my toner.
I can't believe Brother would do this to us =(
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by Goodtoner (1/15/09 11:20 PM) reply | + / - | Really nice tips, OppressedPrinterUser. Many types of Brother toners cartridge do work this way. http://www.fdgtoner.com
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| Resetting page counter after replacing toner by nedlevine (1/18/09 8:19 AM) reply | + / - | Does anyone know how to reset the page counter after replacing toner cartridges? I have a MFC9840cdw. I just replaced the cartridges (as opposed to resetting the "toner low" message, which can be done from the menu). However, I want to reset the page counter so I can have a rough idea of toner use going forward. I checked the Brother site but they have no information on resetting it. Any help would be appreciated.
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by Anonymous (1/18/09 1:24 PM) reply | + / - | Thanks for the great advise to cover hole with black tape. Just put in new toner and message came up "toner life end".
I also moved the white piece on left side of tuner up and that helped reset printer!
Thanks again
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by rwilmot (1/20/09 4:37 AM) reply | + / - | I have many of the problems mentioned above. I will be trying various fixes on Friday! Wish me luck!
I have a question though. Can you not just take out the flag gear and metal spring thing???
Thanks
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| Re: Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by Anonymous (1/21/09 1:49 PM) reply | + / - | This method worked for my MFC-9840CDW. Still gives a "Toner Low" message, but it will allow us to print.
Wish I would have known about this months ago! Thanks!
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| Re: Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by Anonymous (1/23/09 1:26 AM) reply | + / - | Excellent tip for the 4040CN. Many thanks
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| Working with Brother HL2040 by Anonymous (1/24/09 12:33 PM) reply | + / - | I have covered the two sensors on the twos side on the toner. It works. Thank you.
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| Re: Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by oakpal (1/25/09 2:42 PM) reply | + / - | Thank you, thank you, thank you.
I was able to reset my 9440 thanks to your advice.
I wish I could return the favor.
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by kolesarm (1/28/09 8:17 AM) reply | + / - | Thanks - I just put a black piece of paper in front of the sensor. I have no idea why Brother won't let you print with toner low.
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| Re: Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by BigBADBROTHER (2/1/09 5:10 PM) reply | + / - | I am so pissed with brother....I have been spending $1000's each month in our office on ink for the Brother 9840cdw. Overall this is a fantastic printer no paper jams or any problems. My grip is that we kept getting toner end life after short periods of time. I only use hi yield printer ink (original manufacture) but seemed to be going through the ink rapidly.
Finally I had had enough, I changed the toner before Christmas and now we are into first week of February and its asking to replace Yellow ink again, issue is our office hasn't been even been open most of January and we have had little use of printer let alone colour. But today i get the low toner message and so i pop the cap and check if its empty, cause it still feels full. Shock and Horror it is still full, i pour the remaining well over half the yellow toner into the trash. Man I am angry- then I google and find this forum and find the "hidden" reset menu for the toner and low and behold they all work... I kept a few "empty" cartridges aside cause I felt there must be something wrong with my printer, but now I know there ISN'T...because I know that Brother has been ripping me off BLIND.
And to the anon forum poster who thinks you need half a toner cartridge for "lubricating" the mechanical parts, that is complete CRAP!!! There is way to much left over toner for that excuse... Where do u get your insider knowledge/propaganda from??
For anyone who hasn't read the Forum tip:
step 1. Pull open front toner bay
step 2. press back button
step 3. reset toners
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by Anonymous (2/1/09 7:39 PM) reply | + / - | Good looking out!!! I have a Brother MFC-440CN printer and it works for the LC-51 toner cartridge also.
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| Re: Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by Anonymous (2/4/09 5:18 PM) reply | + / - | Thanks!
Nothing else I tried worked but this reset my printer for perfectly unused cartridges.
For the Brother HL-4070cdw, if you get the Tone Life End message, and are no longer allowed to print, try this...
1) Open the front door - the message 'Cover is Open' will appear.
2) Press and hold the cancel button.
3) Press the Reprint button - the message 'Reset Parts Life' should appear.
4) Then do the following:
B.TNR-H - Select ok, accepted should display. Press ^
B.TNR-S - Select ok, accepted should display. Press ^
Y.TNR-H - Select ok, accepted should display. Press ^
Y.TNR-S - Select ok, accepted should display. Press ^
M.TNR-H - Select ok, accepted should display. Press ^
M.TNR-S - Select ok, accepted should display. Press ^
C.TNR-H - Select ok, accepted should display. Press ^
C.TNR-S - Select ok, accepted should display. Press ^
5) Cancel
6) Close the front door.
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by lvnv4me (2/4/09 11:18 PM) reply | + / - | None of these tricks worked on 9440 CN. Got end of life on all three color cartridges. Replaced all three.
Yellow still says end of life but it is a new cart. PRINTER WON'T PRINT even in monochrome!! HELP.
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by WriConsult (2/10/09 10:23 PM) reply | + / - | One more big thumbs-up for this fix. Can't find my manual for my 5170DNLT and the brother support site is down -- so I wasn't sure of the meaning of the "dumb" status lights. Not knowing whether this was a serious problem or simply low toner, I did not want to invest $90 in a new cartridge to find out.
Tried everything else including the corona wire and high voltage contact cleanings to no avail. Found this page, put some electrical tape over the sensor hole and Voila! It's printing again! Now I know my printer's still good, and am confident making the investment in a new cartridge when the toner does run out. Thanks everyone!
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| Re: Re: Re: Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by RVdave (2/12/09 2:01 PM) reply | + / - | If I'm reading these postings correctly, it seems the HL-4040CN problem can be solved by EITHER blocking the toner detection windows on the cartridge, OR using the toner life reset procedure, or manually resetting the cartridge reset gear. Do all of these procedures solve the problem, or is one better/easier than another? It seems like any of these 3 detection schemes could/would override the others. What am I missing here? Thanks for your help.
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| Re: Re: Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by abajan (2/16/09 7:18 PM) reply | + / - | I feel your anger, jwooden5941 but it ain't just Brother. Practically all printer manufacturers do this sort of stuff. Printer ink/toner is BIG business.
Thankfully, there are forums like fixyourownprinter.com to help us little guys "stick it to the man!" The suggestions in this thread alone will save me thousands of dollars because I run a small desktop publishing operation.
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by Anonymous (2/18/09 11:10 AM) reply | + / - | DCP 350C worked! Thanks for sharing. We don't EVEN USE the color ink, so we were trying to figure out how it was empty to begin with.
Of course, as we did this, each sucessive color cartridge showed "empty." Changed cyan, next message, magenta out, changed magenta, next message yellow LOW. That would have been HUGELY annoying if I were running back and forth to the store with one cartridge at a time.
Be prepared to tape them ALL up.
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| Re: Re: Brother toner cartridge stuck by Anonymous (2/18/09 2:34 PM) reply | + / - | i have seen this problem before
when you open the front cover on left hand side there should be a black arm that latches onto the cover make sure that is connected if it isn't it has probably been pulled back into the side of the printer
if you can see the arm just sticking out of its hole, pull it out , if it wont come out any further that means the pivot gear is broken this is cause mostly by recycled and compatible toner cartridges
this arm controls the gear that engages the toner cartridge so it the toner cart has siezed it with snap the gears
as i recommend to every one even tho brother cartridges are expensive they always produce the best quality, and wile hte compatible brands are cheap they are the number one cause for quality and structural issues
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| Re: RVdave's Post: Which Method Is Best? by abajan (edited 2/18/09 6:04 PM) reply | + / - | Well, I'm yet to try the "reset gear" method but using tape to cover the toner detection window works better for me than resetting the cartridge via the control panel.
Whereas resetting the cartridge via the control panel only allows one sheet to print before the LCD reverts to the rather annoying "Toner Life End" message, thus far taping the window has allowed printing of several sheets in succession with no indication that the toner is even getting low. (My printer is the same as yours: HL-4040CN.)
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by ljgeller (2/20/09 5:11 AM) reply | + / - | These postings are great... I have a Ricoh printer that also stopped printing due to toner. I found this forum while searching for an answer, and decided to take a look at my cartridges. Lo and behold, there were the little round windows on each side. I covered the windows with tape, and I am back in business! THANK YOU!
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| Re: Re: RVdave's Post: Which Method Is Best? by RVdave (2/28/09 10:00 AM) reply | + / - | Thanks for the comeback. It seems like the tape method is the most popular, so I'll stick with that simple solution. For those wondering why manufacturers use a system that encourages cartridge replacement, consider this.....My Brother HL-4040CN cost $199 on sale at Staples. It came with 4 cartridges, that cost $60+ each ($240+). Bottom line, they gave me the printer and $40 to get me on board to purchase as many cartridges as possible. Their business model is to sell as many printers as possible, even at a loss, so they can sell lots of highly profitable toner cartridges. Thank goodness for forums like this, and black electrical tape! Good luck.
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by CU1 (2/28/09 3:46 PM) reply | + / - | Someone explain this, please...I bought a 9840CDW 2 months ago.
So far I probably printed 100 BW text pages and another 100 or so CD color labels and CD color booklets.
Yesterday I had my first big run: 50 full color duplex flyers with an image size of 7x9 inches on the 8.5x11 area.
I checked the toner levels prior to starting. and all 4 colors were as full as the first day of use.
After the first 50 pages came out, I sent the comand to print another 50 pages, and in the print dialog box I got a "Low Toner" warning message.
I checked the levels, and all were still full as the first day, except for the magenta toner which showed up as 90% empty! The image was not a 7x9 solid magenta block; it is an outdoor garden image with some text floating on top of the image on one side and a light clouds with more text on the other side.
I'm aware of the 5% yield theory and I read about the black tape trick and the software cartridge reset but, come on! Aren't these fixes a little premature in my case? I only printed 50 duplex pages!
Are the factory installed cartridges so small? Why didn't the other 3 toners show no change at all?
Any clues anyone please?
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by keracerov (2/28/09 9:13 PM) reply | + / - | I tried the fix cited here for the 4070 cdw and it worked!!! Thanks so much. I like the printer fairly well, but am very frustrated that it requires all of the colored cartridges be replaced at the same time. It happend twice within 4 months and at $50-$88/cartridge for four cartridges, i'm considering a different printer. Is this typical for this machine? Why would all the cartridges empty at exactly the same time?
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| Re: Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by Anonymous (3/9/09 9:53 PM) reply | + / - | You are a genious. This worked for my brother hl 4070 cdw toner life end error message.
In reply to Tom:
For the Brother HL-4070cdw, if you get the Tone Life End message, and are no longer allowed to print, try this...
1) Open the front door - the message 'Cover is Open' will appear.
2) Press and hold the cancel button.
3) Press the Reprint button - the message 'Reset Parts Life' should appear.
4) Then do the following:
B.TNR-H - accepted should display. Press ^
B.TNR-S - accepted should display. Press ^
Y.TNR-H - accepted should display. Press ^
Y.TNR-S - accepted should display. Press ^
M.TNR-H - accepted should display. Press ^
M.TNR-S - accepted should display. Press ^
C.TNR-H - accepted should display. Press ^
C.TNR-S - accepted should display. Press ^
5) Cancel
6) Close the front door.
You should be able to print, assuming your HL-4070cdw still has toner and drum life left.
I believe the above sequence clears the toner for Black, Yellow, Magenta and Cyan for the High capacity or Standard capacity toner cartridge.
None of the stats for your printer will be reset (ie Image Count, Drum Count, Drum Life, Belf Life, PF KitMPLife, PF Kit|Life, Fuser Life or Laser life) and your print totals will still be unchanged (ie Toner page count, color page count, monochrome page count).
Tom
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by babaganoosh (3/11/09 7:05 AM) reply | + / - | How about for the HL-1440? There's no sensors I can see and it only has a single button. I can shake the toner cart a few times and get a few more pages each time(that look great). but my kids and wife are on my case.
thanks!
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by annemariesimpson@hot (3/13/09 8:56 AM) reply | + / - | I have a Brother DCP-330C inkjet, can someone please tell me what to do to make cartridges last longer I am forever changing a cartridge and as soon as I replace one, another runs out. Do I have to cover the sensors? Does this work on this model? I have tried replacing black with yellow Brother cartridge and then putting back black compatible but doesn't work. Any help would be most appreciated as I need to print a couple of pages urgently!!!
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| Re: Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by Anonymous (3/14/09 8:28 PM) reply | + / - | On the HL1440 just put the black tape on the sensor it's on the right side (CLEAR 1/4" thing) on the right when you remove the cartridge.
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by abajan (3/15/09 8:21 PM) reply | + / - | A couple things to bear in mind if using the "cover the hole" method:
Make sure that tape or whatever you use to cover the hole is SECURELY IN PLACE. Otherwise if it comes off and gets into the works of the printer, you might have to call a technician and be left with a BIG repair bill. A good alternative to tape is Cling brand floral clay; It's VERY sticky and once applied, is sure to remain in place until you deliberately remove it. It's a bit pricey but worth it, IMO.
Also, closely monitor print quality and at the first sign of that color (coming from the cartridge you modified) going, replace the cartridge. Failing to do so can shorten the life of your printer.
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| Re: Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by Anonymous (3/16/09 11:35 AM) reply | + / - | I had read all the post so far and tried all the tricks. The tape over the holes worked for the black but not for the color cartridges. No one seemed to have model numbers close to mine (4070cdw)Then I saw this and thought the numbers were close enough. I tried it, the cancel and reprint buttons. Happy day, it worked. The menu poped up, reset, accepted, and I'm back in business.
Thank you so much for posting. You made at least one person very happy today.
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by Anonymous (3/16/09 9:43 PM) reply | + / - | Thanks for the post, it was very helpful. I have tried this with the TN-110 cartridges/HL-4070CDW and it works perfectly. I believe that once the printer detects the low toner optically, it goes to a page count to determine when it thinks the toner is empty. I have not taped it, as I still intend to buy a new cartridge, but this should last a while anyway.
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| Low toner - an odor when printing?? by bjulien (3/21/09 8:11 AM) reply | + / - | Hi,
Just bought printer recently, and despite error/low toner message, i've continued to use the toner cartridge that came with the printer cuz the quality is OK. BUT.... i notice an odor now when i print. Anybody know why? Is there any chance i'm damaging the drum, or something else, by continuing to print despite low toner?
thanks!!
bj
p.s. it's HL-2170w model
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by John123213124 (3/22/09 3:22 AM) reply | + / - | Worked great for me with a HL-2140. You are a genius, Brother should be ashamed.
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by Anonymous (3/22/09 9:26 AM) reply | + / - | With my HL-4040 CN I quickly got an intermittent "low toner" signal on the LCD display for the _magenta_ toner. This was weird, as I was printing lots of black, with some yellow, and only a little bit of red or blue.
Then without warning (that I noticed), I got a "toner life end" error message on the LCD panel for the _black_ toner, and couldn't print. I'd already bought a replacement black (high-capacity), because I knew I was going to be doing a lot of printing. Well, I was originally quite happy, because I got almost 3000 pages out of the black toner cartridge shipped with the new printer, which was over the design specification. But I was surprised, considering that the print quality seemed fine.
After replacing the black, and more printing, I got the "low toner" signal steadily for the magenta, and then suddenly (at the same time) for magenta and cyan too. After a few hundred more pages I got the "toner end life" on all three simultaneously. This was definitely fishy. Thanks to this forum I am on the way to fixing this. The tape didn't work (I used masking tape, and didn't try very hard). But the toner reset on the hidden menu has helped.
—DIV
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| Re: Low toner - an odor when printing?? by abajan (edited 3/23/09 4:02 AM) reply | + / - | That doesn't sound good. The documentation supplied with my HL-4040CN states: "If the printer becomes hot, blows smoke, or generates an obscure odor, immediately turn off the power
switch and unplug the printer from the AC power outlet. Call your Brother dealer or Brother Customer Service."
BTW, the user's guide (15.2 MB PDF, 211 pages) for the HL-4040CN, HL-4050CDN and HL-4070CDW printers can be downloaded from http://static.tigerdirect.com
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| Re: Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by Anonymous (3/23/09 11:31 AM) reply | + / - | Thanks. I used your method of overriding the toner messages. It worked after the tape, black marker, etc. did not. Thanks again.
Susan
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by peequeen (3/24/09 11:59 AM) reply | + / - | worked for TN-580 brother cartridge also. I used clear tape and then used black marker on that and it worked well too. KMRN
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by Anonymous (3/25/09 11:39 PM) reply | + / - | DAMN!!!! This works like a charm.
1. Remove the toner from the printer
2. Put small balck tape on the small sensors on the side
3. Put Toner back
and you are back in Business .....
Print till the cows come home...
Imagine the environmental toll of chucking away
a toner that can give you a lot more printed pages. WOW!!!!
Thank you
cheers Guys ...
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| Re: Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by Anonymous (3/26/09 8:19 AM) reply | + / - | It"s working also for Brother MFC 7840W
Thank's!!!!!
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| Re: Re: Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by Anonymous (3/26/09 1:43 PM) reply | + / - | Of course you forgot to factor in the cost of paper, and that is included in the kinkos price.
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| Re: Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by Anonymous (3/29/09 1:32 AM) reply | + / - | This solution from Brett In SoCal works like a charm for the Brother 9840 CDW. Thanks. Freelunch
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by anonymous (4/1/09 9:04 AM) reply | + / - | I have a HL-5250 and have probably printed less than 1500 pages, but the toner light is on and it won't print (the last pages it did print were fine). I tried covering the sensor windows, but it didn't work. I'm thinking about trying the flag reset, but do you know if my printer has "a built-in waste toner reservoir"? I don't want to do any damage. Thanks.
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| Re: Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by AndrewLawniczak (4/14/09 7:46 AM) reply | + / - | Yippee!! I have an MFC-9840 CDW printer, and I followed all the instructions about the tape and such, but to no avail.. Then I read your post on how to reset the toner cartridge within the printer and PRESTO! Worked like a charm! I had one that I refilled and still had the "toner life end" message on the screen, and one that was just a "low toner life" message. This trick fixed them both! Thanks so much!!!!
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by Anonymous (4/17/09 1:00 PM) reply | + / - | Also worked on TN-110 cartridge.
Thanks!
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| Re: Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by Anonymous (4/20/09 8:53 AM) reply | + / - | AWESOME - IT WORKED!!! THANK YOU!!!
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| Re: Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by Anonymous (4/24/09 12:55 PM) reply | + / - | Trying to find out how many pages my printer has printed. How did you log in using your web browser?
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by nivek  (4/24/09 3:46 PM) reply | + / - | On most machines network cards its just by typing in the IP address of the machine in the web browser to pull up the Interface. Some machines tell you on one of the report pages or you can get it off the usuage page in service mode which holds lots of intresting information about your machine. What is the model?
Example: 192.102.10.125
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| Brother low toner override for TN 570 by Pete H (4/27/09 8:21 PM) reply | + / - | Where is the sensor hole to cover up?
I have an MFC-8440 which has been great, but I'd love to save on toner. This last time I bought a generic cartridge and it has worked fine, but is now low, or so it says. I don't see an obvious sensor hole. Any tips? Thanks.
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| Re: Re: Re: Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by Anonymous (4/29/09 9:51 AM) reply | + / - | Hi all,
Works on HL-4050CDN as well, and like the previous poster, repeated here to save hunting all over the page for the routine:
For the toner life reset menu:
1 Open the front cover of the printer
2 press and hold the cancel button
3 press the reprint button WHILE still holding cancel
- here is the reset menu - go to the appropriate cartridge on
- the menu and reset it and you're done!
FYI... Pressing the "Go" button and the up arrow gives you the parts life reset menu (drum, laser, fuser, etc.)
I'm guessing that the abbreviations are:
B.TNR-S means black, toner, standard (next option is B.TNR-H which I assumed meant High (capacity) but if anyone knows different I'd like to know.
Thank you thank you thank you posters, I reckon you just saved me a couple of hundred quids a year.
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by Pete H (4/29/09 6:53 PM) reply | + / - | Thanks for the 4-29 post about the menu, but where is the hole to cover on the TN-570 cartridge (same as the TN-540)?
Thanks
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| Re: Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by Anonymous (4/30/09 12:36 PM) reply | + / - | Brett;
Thank you so much for your instructions on how to reset the Brother MFC9440 printer. I have a MFC9840CDW and used your instructions with instant success! I am in your debt. I have been waiting for 3months for `tonerrefillyourself.com' to put their color toner on the market. I have been using them for about 4years now (Starting with my Sharp 1551CS and then my HP LJ4100). I trust them as they do not use `fit's all' type toner. They also include instruction on refilling each cartridge.
Thanks again,
Stan Phillips
Translucent Services
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| Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by hagan (5/6/09 9:20 AM) reply | + / - | Here's what I think about which method works best...
There seems to be a standard number of pages when the printer "thinks" the toner is empty and wants you to refill.
This is when I would use the control panel reset instructions.
then...
As far as covering the windows, it seems that the printer "thinks" the cartridges are empty when the toner falls below a certain level. As we all know, that level is like 3/4 full so blocking the windows with tape makes the printer "think" that the cartridge is still full of toner since the laser (or whatever it is) cant shine through to the other side. I would try this if resetting the toner life in the control panel doesn't get you printing. Next time I replace cartirdges (when it's REALLY needed) I plan on putting the tape on the window to start just to get it done!
I haven't ever done anything with resetting the gear, and as you can see from my last post, I am on my 3rd reset of the toner life in the control panel. To me that seems like it might be a little too much drama when the other methods are already doing the job (for me).
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| Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by hagan (5/6/09 9:24 AM) reply | + / - | well my "previous" post I mentioned hasn't gone up yet so maybe you will see it soon...
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by Anonymous (5/11/09 3:42 PM) reply | + / - | I cant get it to work with my TN580 BROTHER Printer! :( Help Please!
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| Brother toner cartridge low toner override - easy! by Anonymous (5/12/09 8:31 PM) reply | + / - | I have a Brother HL4070 and have gone through 3 sets of toner cartridges; so have spent 3X the cost of the printer on toner alone! It was 11:00 pm and my highschool junior was printing his presentation for tommorow's class when the yellow cartridge "ran out". Out of shear desperation, I searched for a solution, and came upon this forum.
I found the above post particularly helpful, especially the link to the excelent article on remanufacturing the cartridge [http://www.uninetimaging.com I did try covering the sensor hole, but no luck, still complained about "empty toner", but I could see quite a bit of toner inside my yellow cartridge (TN115Y). So tried the "resseting the gear" suggestion, and worked like a charm! You do NOT have to dismantle the cartridge, or even remove the end plate. A ballpoint pen inserted through the gap is enough to slide the gear back on the spring to the "full" position. Printer is working fine without any complaints.
PS: The smell from the Brother printers is supposedly the smell of Ozone, due to the materials used in the toner, and heat. According to Brother, it is not a "dangerous" amount. As a precaution I have networked the printer and moved it to our family room, and away from the bedrooms upstairs.
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override - easy! by abajan (edited 5/13/09 4:41 PM) reply | + / - | I rather like the smell. Besides, ozone is actually good for you. As a matter of fact, we have a clinic in Barbados that offers ozone therapy for all sorts of maladies and some clients have reported amazing results!
BTW, for those wondering if the yellow cartridge whose sensor hole I covered some time ago still has toner - it certainly does! There has been no degradation in print quality whatsoever. And I've printed quite a bit since covering that hole.
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by Anonymous (5/13/09 5:26 PM) reply | + / - | I have a Brother HL 517ODN with TN 540 cartridges and got the low toner message which halted printing. I applied the electrical tape to the non gear side peep hole with no resumption in printing. Printing resumed perfectly after covering the gear side peep hole on the cartridge as well. This was an awesome fix. Thanks to everyone! Down with Big Brother! Up with DIY!!!
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by pythagoras (5/14/09 5:39 PM) reply | + / - | There have been several postings that recommend "covering the sensor eye" with dark tape. I'm using a Brother HL-2140 laserjet printer, and NONE of the postings so far seem to help. I have covered everything that remotely might be a "sensor eye", but the yellow low toner light still goes on and the printer will not print .... even though it got a fresh refill of toner yesterday. Does anyone have further instructions or ideas on how to deal with the Brother HL 2140. Thanks in advance for help.
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by Anonymous (5/14/09 6:59 PM) reply | + / - | Thanks to all who contributed here. This worked for me with the gear reset (I have a 5250DN) - had to try it twice, though worked for me when I closely followed the figures in this:
http://www.castleink.com/265/cartridge/TN580.pdf
Note that you only have to execute the instructions in figures 14-16.
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| Re: Re: Brother toner cartridge flag gear re-set by Pm2 (5/15/09 5:06 PM) reply | + / - | This was a great post! Thanks! You saved me about $88!!
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by pythagoras (5/15/09 5:22 PM) reply | + / - | Last December "Anonymous" posted the following. None of the steps to put tape over various holes and eyes worked on my Brother HL-2140, but the following from "Anonymous" did work for me.
Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by Anonymous (12/10/08 1:03 AM)
This worked for me - I have a HL-2040. It resets the page counter:
1. Open the front cover and leave open while completing the following steps.
2. Turn the printer off.
3. Hold the 'go' button while turning the printer on. All panel lights should be on.
4. Release the 'go' button.
5. Press the 'go' button 2 times.
6. Pause.
7. Press the 'go' button 5 times.
8. The toner light should be off.
9. The paper light should be on or flashing.
10. Close cover. The ready light should be the only light on.
When you look at all the many postings about this problem over several years, it seems ridiculous that the typical non-tech homeowner should have to put up with so many problems. It takes MAGIC to solve them, and is enough to be a TOTAL TURN-OFF for the average homeowner who is trying to use a computer system.
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| Re: Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by aikibaker (5/19/09 6:25 PM) reply | + / - | I know it's a little late with this but I'm a fellow HL-4040 CN owner and just wanted to extend my gratitude. I have looked ALL over for this solution. I taped the sides, tried other reset methods, etc... This was the only one that worked. I don't know how you figured it out, but thanks!!
On side note.... it really gets me that Brother would actually STOP me from printing until I go out and spend $100 on their overpriced toner. I could deal with an annoying reminder, but total inability to use the printer in unacceptable IMHO (especially when their customer service is trained not to give you the real answer your looking for...)
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| Re: Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by aikibaker (5/19/09 6:28 PM) reply | + / - | I know it's a little late with this but I'm a fellow HL-4040 CN owner and just wanted to extend my gratitude. I have looked ALL over for this solution. I taped the sides, tried other reset methods, etc... This was the only one that worked. I don't know how you figured it out, but thanks!!
On side note.... it really gets me that Brother would actually STOP me from printing until I go out and spend $100 on their overpriced toner. I could deal with an annoying reminder, but total inability to use the printer in unacceptable IMHO (especially when their customer service is trained not to give you the real answer your looking for...)
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by Anonymous (5/20/09 3:24 PM) reply | + / - | I didn't have any electrical tape so I used a file lable that had a dark blue corner and stuck it over the eye and secured it with some scotch tape. It worked like a charm! Yeah!
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| Re: Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by abajan (5/20/09 8:40 PM) reply | + / - | As stated previously, just be sure that whatever is used to cover the window is SECURELY in place. Should it fall off into the works of the printer, you may end up having to do major printer repairs.
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by ampaynz1 (5/23/09 10:10 PM) reply | + / - | The following method below worked for HL-2140. THANKS! I routinely check my levels myself and am using a starter cartridge on 3rd refill. Still looks great and have not bought flag gear. I needed a way to use my printer without buying a new cartridge (yet)and this worked for me.
1. Open the front cover and leave open while completing the following steps.
2. Turn the printer off.
3. Hold the 'go' button while turning the printer on. All panel lights should be on.
4. Release the 'go' button.
5. Press the 'go' button 2 times.
6. Pause.
7. Press the 'go' button 5 times.
8. The toner light should be off.
9. The paper light should be on or flashing.
10. Close cover. The ready light should be the only light on.
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by ihackmacs (5/24/09 2:21 PM) reply | + / - | Thanks, I knew that my toner wasn't out after I only printed 275 pages, I would get the clean the corona wire, but the thing that was actually making my printer print was me lifting the toner vertically to clean the corona wire which would put toner on the sensor.
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| Great scott, it works! by DavaoBase (5/27/09 7:50 AM) reply | + / - | The "tape on the sensor" DIY works perfectly with my Brother HL-2070N printer. No more toner LED lights for me!
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| Re: Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by Anonymous (5/28/09 11:34 AM) reply | + / - | This is the beauty about the internet. After wasting almost 30 minutes in the phone with customer support from Brother, the only advise they give me was to replace the cartridges, even when I was telling them I didn't use the printer (MFC-9840CDW) a lot since the last time I replace the cartridges. Anyway I went online and find this site, but even closing the holes with the tape wasn't working, until I found your post about resetting the toner (THANKS A LOT MEN) very carefull I opened on the the cartridges and notices that is almost half of the life toner in there. BROTHER is killing us making us replace the cartridges when there's a lot of life remaining on them. But thanks to people like you, we can use the toners and cartridges until the end as was supposse to be.
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by Rob105 (6/5/09 6:02 AM) reply | + / - | I have a MFC-9440CN with 2700 pages printed using the original cartridges, and just began to get a low toner notice for black, and then for the three color cartridges. So I tried the tape over the window/square hole tricks, but that did not work consistently. Then I tried to reset the counters as described by Brett in SoCal, and I no longer get the low toner message. Thanks!!!
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| Re: Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by Anonymous (6/7/09 6:22 AM) reply | + / - | Thanks Brett !!
The key to my finding you're origial posting was the date you posted in your reminder.
This was a huge help.
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by levl (6/9/09 7:24 AM) reply | + / - | When doing the reset for the "Toner life end" on the 7820N, remember to tape the toner "eyes". If this is not done, there is no way the reset will work. I tried the : Front door open/start/10/front door closed procedure and it worked so far.
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| Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by aet2u (edited 6/9/09 12:15 PM) reply | + / - | Not sure who posted the tip below but Thank you, thank you, thank you - tape on the sensors didn't work but this saved my wife's business $300 (and me from losing my mind)!!!!!!! (Brother HL 4070 CDW)
For the toner life reset menu:
1 Open the front cover of the printer
2 press and hold the cancel button
3 press the reprint button WHILE still holding cancel
- here is the reset menu - go to the appropriate cartridge on
- the menu and reset it and you're done!
FYI... Pressing the "Go" button and the up arrow gives you the parts life reset menu (drum, laser, fuser, etc.)
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by lynmariel (6/9/09 4:38 PM) reply | + / - | Have a Brother 4100e and was able to resume printing after using the electrical tape trick in 3 places: one very small eye above where the drum cartridge sits on the right and two larger,glass eyes on either side of where the drum cartridge sits, left and right. Replaced the drum cartridge and back in business. I hope this saves someone else from toner drama!
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by Anonymous (6/9/09 9:30 PM) reply | + / - | Hello everyone!
Most of the Brother Printers even the color ones such as the 4040 & 4070 use 2 different toner detection systems. Many have the sensor "window" which can be covered with black tape but also have a "Flag Gear". The flag gear causes the cartridge to completely lock up the printer at a certain point. This is because the brother printers also use a toner recycling system which will adjust voltages depending on the toner levels detected and the flag gear position. The workaround is relatively simple for each printer but does vary. If you are interested in more info send me your specific model number and I may be able to send you a helpful illustration in pdf format. My email address is usamktg@aol.com
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| Re: Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by K Khalifa (6/10/09 8:31 AM) reply | + / - | This worked for me-- also the manual for the 4070CDW has the wrong instructions for resetting the drum count/life. I was going crazy trying to find something that would work after replacing the drum unit.
I found that I coould use these same instructions with one modification for resetting drum life/count
1. Open the front door
2. Press and hold the cancel button
3. Press Go and "+" and you get the "Reset Parts Life" menu with Drum Life option
4. Press OK twice and you get the "Accepted" message
5. Cancel
6. Close the front door.
Thanks for the tip!
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| Re: Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by rpotvin (6/11/09 7:45 PM) reply | + / - | Thank you so much, hagan for posting the reset menu directions for the HL 4040!! I'm on my second cartridge (1st was the starter and now I have the high capacities in) and am already sitting at 8900 pages printed. Of course this is due to covering the toner sensor windows. Resetting the toner life via the menu isn't a complete solve though - it still does stop printing before the actual quality of the print is affected but by the time it actually refuses to print with the cartridge, I've managed at least 1000 extra pages per cartridge. This alone is a HUGE money saver! I miss the old printers that kept printing even when there was no toner left! I love Brother printers but I wish they would let US determine when the toner needs to be replaced instead of a stupid printer! If anyone has any better fixes (apart from buying a new toner cartridge), please keep posting them here! This is a super thread!
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by LindaG (6/17/09 2:20 PM) reply | + / - | Can you override and inkjet printer? I have a Brother MFC 5490CN
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| Re: Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by Anonymous (6/18/09 4:38 PM) reply | + / - | This works for the DCP-9040 CN as well. Did the black tape and to my chagrin it didn't solve my "end of life" message. But resetting as described by Brett in SoCal worked beautfully.
Thanks so much!
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| Re: Drum life has Ended? by Anonymous (6/18/09 7:55 PM) reply | + / - | Bother DR-510 and many others
keep the front cover open (make sure the power is on) press and hold the GO button until all 4 LED s are lit up, close the front cover. Make sure the drum LED is off. The counter is reset!
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| Re: Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by Choyce (6/18/09 8:12 PM) reply | + / - | I cannot thank you enough for taking the time to post, you saved my job!!!!!
Thank you
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by bubernak (6/19/09 9:20 AM) reply | + / - | Just got the message that "drum" needs replacing on my MFC-9840. Is there any built in hard stop with that component like there is with the toner cartridges? I haven't noticed any degradataion in print quality, so I'm wondering why the drum would need replacing...and we are talking about the part that holds the toner cartridges, right? Thanks, Mike
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| Re: Re: Drum life has Ended? by Anonymous (6/20/09 7:11 AM) reply | + / - | Kay, I haven't bought a new drum yet, so I don't have the instructions for resetting the drum counter. How do you reset the drum counter?
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| Re: Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by Anonymous (6/24/09 9:29 PM) reply | + / - | I found your GREAT advise on this site and I'll like to thank you
for sharing that with people like me, that have this kind of problems, I can see my toners still have like 1/2 life to go.
THANK YOU !!!!!
Pete
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by Alexia (6/25/09 9:22 AM) reply | + / - | Am I a half wit? My Brother HL-4050CDN said replace black toner this morning and it had stopped printing. I did this and for a while it spewed out some goobledigook (previously sent docs I guess, but just coming out as stars and squiggles). Having cleared this backlog from the Print queue and tried turning off and on again both the computer and the printer, I now have a totally unresponsive printer. Any print job I send, gets no reaction from the machine although its display says 'READY'. Meanwhile, the three other toner dots (Y M C) are flashing.
Is this a case for the tried and tested duct tape or what else would you suggest?
Thanks!
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by BIG_DADDY0 (6/26/09 2:41 PM) reply | + / - | Have a Brother HL-2140 Monochrome Laser Printer in which I replaced the TN-360 toner cartridge with a new cartridge. After installing, the toner LED indicator still showed the cartridge to be low on toner. I called customer service and they tried unsuccessfully to turn off the LED indicator and ended up saying they would replace the cartridge if it were less than 90 days old (which it wasn't) otherwise I could continue to use it as there would be no damage to the system or reduction of life. Printed 123 pages when a pop-up on my computer screen said to clean the corona wire. Cleaned per their instructions and tried again to print and got the same pop-up. Repeated a half dozen times without success. Called customer service... they had me repeat the cleaning proceedure; shake the toner cartridge end to end and do other operations such as hold down a switch under the front cover while I turned power on to the printer; pressing the switch twice & pressing the switch 6 times, none of which fixed the problem. They then said the only solution would be to replace the toner cartridge with a new one, but again they would not replace it, since it was more than 90 days old.
Thought I would give a try to see what would happen if I blindfolded the toner level sensor port... IT WORKS!!! It has been printing like new with no "low toner" LED or pop-up to "clean corona wire."
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by BrotherBlows (7/1/09 2:24 AM) reply | + / - | You people ROCK! THANK YOU for your help.
Brother BLOWS for forcing folks to buy a new toner cartridge when it's not needed.
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by pjplanner (7/2/09 12:24 PM) reply | + / - | Worked so far for the 2170.
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by rocketradio (7/3/09 7:22 AM) reply | + / - | I did the flag gear reset on my HL-5250DN cartridges following the advice on this forum. 1 minute of work per cartridge involving a phillips headed screwdriver - Job done :-)
Thank God Brother don't make beer - "Sorry Sir, you have consumed 1/4 of your pint so you must now tip the rest down the sink and buy another one!"
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| Re: Re: Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by Anonymous (7/10/09 6:54 AM) reply | + / - | I love the internet. I used the black tape tactic but that didn't do it. Thank you for posting about the flag gear AND for including the link with pictures!!! That did the trick, I am printing away again.
I appreciate it so much...and I'm also feeling quite handy today. ;)
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by abajan (edited 7/16/09 2:19 AM) reply | + / - | Recently, 2 cartridges (cyan and magenta) on my HL-4040CN that had been indicating they were low, suddenly and simultaneously quit on me. (Oh come on! Does Brother really think consumers are so stupid to believe that 2 cartridges would become empty at exactly the same time?)
Anyway, the purpose of this post is to show that what worked for one cartridge wouldn't necessarily work for the other cartridges, even though they are from the same printer. (Go figure!) From my earlier contributions to this thread, readers will recall that all I did to revive my supposedly "empty" yellow cartridge was to cover one of its windows. Well, I figured that method would work for these other cartridges as well. But it didn't until I also reset them via the printer's control panel (as explained by aet2u and others earlier in this thread).
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| BROTHER HL-4040DN Colour cartridges NOT empty by DKT (7/15/09 7:00 PM) reply | + / - | We have a Brother HL-4040CN which conveniently decides that all three of the colour toners are empty at the same time, BUT with our machine is impossible as it rarely prints colour. We also noticed the removed toner cartridges were the same weight as the new ones and could see toner through the little round windows so I contacted Brother who advised me to reset the toner counters as the machine counts the pages and assumes the carbon is depleted, that's ok if you remember to do it at the right time.
BUT thanks to this forum I taped the holes on both sides of the carrier on all four toner slots and was able to put an old "supposedly Empty" Toner back in which seems to have tricked the machine into thinking it's a new one. This hopefully will save us hundreds. Thanks guys above for all your tips.
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by Pat3 (7/17/09 1:59 PM) reply | +1 + / - | I have a Brother HL-2170W printer, which has worked fine and printed what seemed like a reasonable number of pages for a starter cartridge before the "Toner" light came on. When that happened, I took it to a Cartridge World store and asked if the starter cartridge would work if refilled and was told that it would.
But when I installed the refilled cartridge the Toner light refuses to go off. After some research, it appears that there's a "Reset Gear" on toner cartridges for the Brother HL-2170. One source said the Reset Gear can't even work on starter cartridges, yet others are selling the Reset Gear saying it will work on starter cartridges.
Meanwhile, I have also come under the impression that there's a sequence of button pushes on the printer that will reset the Toner Counter. Does anyone know what that button-push sequence would be to do that? Thanks!
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| Re: Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by Anonymous (7/20/09 11:08 AM) reply | + / - | mistertablit's solution worked perfectly. all I had to work with was surgical tape and it worked great, just cover the window and you're back in business. thanks!
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by Anonymous (7/20/09 11:52 AM) reply | +1 + / - | The mechanical tape worked on my little lowly home printer. Thanks so much for this feed! The ink is just outrageous and for someone who almost NEVER prints in color to have to replace color cartridges every 4 months or so...this is awesome.
Thanks again! School disaster averted!
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| Re: Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by Anonymous (7/21/09 4:26 PM) reply | + / - | FABULOUS! I have a HL-4070CDW and Hagan's "toner life reset" instructions worked like a charm. Much Thanks for the info.
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| Re: Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by Anonymous (7/23/09 11:47 PM) reply | + / - | I actually heard the Choir!! You're the Man thanks it worked great
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by TJB (7/29/09 1:03 PM) reply | + / - | Brilliant!! Thank you all! It worked also on a Brother MFC-260C.
Commercialism raring its greedy head and we can take back control...a good feeling even if just a little control ;o)!
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| Re: Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by Anonymous (7/30/09 4:38 PM) reply | + / - | Love it!
Just did the scotch tape / sharpie thing with TN-330 cartridge for my HQ 1200 printer. I'm not mechanical at all but I figured it out pretty easily.
Here are the instuctions for mechanically challenged people like me:
The holes that have to be covered are on the narrow sides of the cartridge, where the ears would be. One on each side, perfectly round, about 20% smaller than a dime. I took 2 pieces of scotch tape, ripped 2 small pieces of paper, colored them black with a Sharpie, stuck one to the center of each piece of tape, and taped them inside the holes. I colored the outside of the scotch tape too for good measure.
Voila! Printing again.
Ha! I love this.
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by t35t0r (8/1/09 8:02 PM) reply | + / - | On my HL 2070n (network version) with the original TN350 cartridge:
* I tried covering just the sensor window on the non-gear side of the cartridge
* I tried covering both windows (gear and non-gear side)
* I tried covering the sensor windows on the inside of printer
* I tried holding down the go button after opening the toner door, waiting until the three front lights were on, then putting the toner back in and closing the door to try to reset the toner counter
None of the above worked! It still has a solid amber toner light. I also did a factory reset, i.e. turn the printer on with the go button held down until all lights are on, release go and wait until the lights go out, then press go 6 times and wait for reset.
Again nothing worked!! I don't understand how you other guys with 2070's are getting this to work but it's not for me.
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| Re: BROTHER HL-4040DN Colour cartridges NOT empty by Anonymous (8/2/09 10:28 PM) reply | + / - | Send me an email address and I will email you instructions on how to reset the "FLAG GEAR" for the toner cartridge
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by bubernak (8/4/09 6:22 AM) reply | + / - | I've begun getting a warning message on my MFC-9840CDW that the drum needs replacing, so I'm just wondering whether a) it will also disable (hit a hard stop) the printer at some point and if not, b) what is the issue with continuing to print without replacing it? The drum is basically the tray that holds the 4 toner cartridges...correct? What is there to wear out with that? Thanks!
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by cmacri (edited 8/9/09 6:42 PM) reply | +1 + / - | We successfully reset the toner end message and have happily continued to print. Eventually, even though the toner window shows that there is still lots of toner in the cartridge, the cartridge starts to "spew" toner, not only on the printed paper, but inside the printer. Is there anything we can re-set to stop this? Maybe the flag gear? Edited to say that we have the Brother HL-4040CDN
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by SueCB (8/14/09 8:21 AM) reply | + / - | Hello. I came across your site, as I was looking for tips on how to make my printer ink last longer. I have a Brother HL-4040CND lazer printer, and its telling me that dreaded message, life end ink. And I KNOW there is ink left!
I contacted Brother about this and asked them to help me with this override thing, and he told me there is no trick that he is aware of.
Well, I heard there is a way to override this message but, I can't figure it out. I examined the cartridge and I can't find the "chip" or eye hole is situated to cover it up to fool the machine to print again. This is SOOOO frustrating!!!! HELP!!!!
Sue.
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by abajan (8/14/09 10:22 AM) reply | + / - | SueCB, are you sure your printer model number is HL-4040CND or did you mean HL-4040CDN (or perhaps HL-4050CDN)? I just want to be sure because although there is indeed such a printer as the HL-4040CND, one can easily get confused!
If it's HL-4040CDN, you can download its manual from http://static.tigerdirect.com and see if there's anything there to help. (Just right click the link and from the context menu choose "Save Link As...")
I hope this helps.
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| Re: Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by Anonymous (8/14/09 4:31 PM) reply | + / - | Hi Abajan.
thanks! i'm sorry i got those numbers confused. its a HL-4040CDN!!! and I GOT IT TO WORK AGAIN!!!! I did a bit more reading on this site and seen that you can place tape over the holes to trick the printer in thinking the cartridge is full. well, I read that before, but, couldn't find any specific "hole" or sensor that I could cover up. so, I just took a pc of painters green tape and proceeded to cover up any thing that remotely looked like some type of sensor. my first attempt was to cover the clear little plastic 'washer" type circles, that are situated on either ends of the cartridge, right in the middle of the drums. and voila! IT WORKED!!! I continued my printing today and am at A TOTAL OF 1000 PAGES OF TEXT!!! Ya, you read that right. One thousand!! Ha! I knew there was more ink in that thing! Dam printer companies! trying to get us to buy more ink! and the waist! can you imagine the waist!! most ppl don't know this trick! I'll make sure to tell all my friends about this one!
thanks group!
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| Re: Re: Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by aab107 (8/17/09 2:03 PM) reply | + / - | Hi, I have a BROTHER 2170W printer and I don't know how to reset the low toner override. If you can help me out with instructions that would be great. Thanks.
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| Re: Re: Re: Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by Anonymous (8/19/09 9:25 AM) reply | + / - | Hi aab107...can you elaborate? I'm not quite sure I understand your delimma.
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by RVdave (8/20/09 4:25 PM) reply | + / - | The display on my HL-4040CN started flashing, indicating low toner, so I performed all 3 of the cures recommended..
1) Block the optical sensor hole on each cartridge
2) Remove the end-cap from each cartridge and reset the flag gear
3 Reset the software counter for each cartridge
The whole job was easy and took less than 15 minutes, and the display stopped flashing. Here's my question....I'm using the initial starter cartridges and will probably purchase larger cartridges when these eventually run out of toner. Like a previous poster asked...what would be the downside of simply removing the flag gear and spring (they come off easily) instead of resetting it to the start position? I know this gear also has a tang that changes the bias voltage as the toner is depleted, but wonder if removing it would make a noticeable difference. Thanks for all the great help. - Dave
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by abajan (8/22/09 1:25 PM) reply | -1 + / - | @Concerned CItizen
Excuse me but what on earth are you talking about? If you have a beef with someone who shares my user name, take it up with them. This thread's purpose is to help people who are having difficulty coaxing more toner out of their printer cartridges.
This is the first and only warning to take your sp@m elsewhere or your IP address will be noted and your ISP contacted about your activities. Additionally, that IP address will be shared with several other entities. So, even if your ISP fails to take action, you may start noticing "403" error messages occurring with more frequency as you attempt to view various websites.
The less spammers online, the more enjoyable and informative the Internet will be for the rest of us. Find something worthwhile to occupy your time.
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| Brother toner cartridge low toner override by LolaDesigner (8/24/09 2:14 AM) reply | + / - | Amazing, amazing. This worked for my Brother HL-4070!! I ran out of yellow and on the left side, not on the cartridge, but on the yellow hole that holds the yellow cartridge, I placed a piece of black tape. IAnd the yellow worked again! This was a lifesaver as I am working late!!
Thank you, you guys are geniuses!
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| Brother HL 4040 CN Low toner error by Anonymous (8/24/09 5:16 AM) reply | + / - | How do I override this message on the HL 4040 CN?
Thank you - Joe
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| HL 4040 CN toner override low message by Anonymous (8/24/09 5:28 AM) reply | + / - | I have the same printer. Have tried the tape over the optical sensor without success.
How do I remove end cap & reset flag gear?
Thx-Joe
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| Re: HL 4040 CN toner override low message by RVdave (edited 8/27/09 9:44 AM) reply | + / - | "I have the same printer. Have tried the tape over the optical sensor without success."
Did you block all 4 of the holes that the sensor monitors (one on each cartridge)? Some block those holes/windows on the individual cartridges. I found it easier to block the 4 holes located on the outside of the cartridge pullout tray, that align with the plastic windows on each cartridge. Good luck.
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by anonymous (8/25/09 7:19 PM) reply | + / - | Bingo! MFC9840CDW. black low toner warning. Used dark opaque electrical tape. Covered one hole, no luck. Covered a second hole and.... behold! I'm back in business. Shook the cartridge gently side to side, just for good luck. Thanks so much guys.
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by ladman (8/27/09 10:05 AM) reply | + / - | Re: Brother MFC-9840CDW
Printer has 4 cartridges 3 color (magenta, cyan. Yellow) & black.
Printer is used mainly (90%) noncolor printing so I was puzzled when magenta low toner message appeared 1st. Then yellow and cyan. appeared, but printer continued to print. Then when black went "low" and then "out" I replaced the black but...printer would not function. Called Brother tech. support and they informed me that unless I select "mono" rather then "auto" the printer still uses color drums. Thanks for telling me that now!
I bought new color cartridges and replaced each, one at a time, and the message for that toner would disappear. Then I would put back in the old cartridge and replace the next color new cartridge. After doing this the printer printed fine using the old cartridges. I again called tech. support and complained but they just said that the printer operates off some page count.
So how do I override this page count so that it uses all the toner? This is a new machine and my first toner replacement @ $80 per toner cartridge I need to run them dry!!
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| Re: Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by RVdave (8/27/09 11:01 AM) reply | + / - | ladman - Here's the procedure that another owner of that model previously posted....
1) Open the door as if you were going to change the toners
2) Press the Clear/Back button
3) The Reset Menu appears!
4) I reset all of the TNR-S (four of them - one for each color)
I don't have that model, but on my HL 4040CN the Reset menu showed two settings for each cartridge (8 in all) and I reset all of them.
Good luck
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| Re: Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by Anonymous (8/28/09 11:11 AM) reply | + / - | Dude you rock!! Thanks for fiddling around, worked great for me and now i can use the tonor cartrages i knew were good. (I put the yellow in black, and so on had em all print like they were black, so i knew they were fine.) Now i'm back to printing in wonderful color, and don't have to replace the cartrages for the insano amount of $$ yet.
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by Anonymous (8/28/09 8:25 PM) reply | + / - | on the TN-540 toner cartridge whitch on is the sensor hole?
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| Re: Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by RVdave (8/29/09 12:17 PM) reply | + / - | I'm not familiar with that model, but on mine there's a 1/4" round plastic window on each end of the cartridge. On mine, the one on the right side is most visible. Examine the yellow cartridge, because on this one the bright yellow toner is most visible through the window. The low toner detection system works by shining a light through the window on one end. If a sensor on the other side of the tray "sees" the light coming through the cartridge, because the toner no longer blocks it, it assumes the cartridge is empty and displays the low toner message. Blocking either hole blocks the light, so the sensor thinks the cartridge is full. As I mentioned previously, because the sensor is on the printer case and not the pullout cartridge tray, I found it easier to block the 4 holes on either side of the tray that align with the cartridge windows. Good luck.
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by SueCB (8/29/09 12:22 PM) reply | + / - | Hello all. I tried to send this message before but, dont' think it made it. I have photographs of my printer, and where I've plugged the wholes. You can view it here
http://imageevent.com
maybe this will help.
have a great weekend!
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by angela1969 (8/31/09 8:06 AM) reply | + / - | For the Brother TN360 you can buy a kit to refill your cartridge. I also bought the reset gear as my original cartridge didnt have one.
Its pretty easy to refill, just remove the cap (hidden behind a sticker) empty ALL the old toner and refill with new.
The reset gear is at the opposite end and you need to remove some screws to access it.
You can buy / get more info here (US)
http://www.tonerangel.us/Brother_TN360_Toner_Refill-details.aspx
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by mastjab (9/4/09 8:42 PM) reply | + / - | Where is the sensor window to tape over on a non-oem toner cartridge for a 2170W? I have a plastic toner container slotted into a plastic sled, then the sled + container combo slide into the printer. Is the sensor hole on the right side of the sled? Is it a 1/4 inch circular hole in the black plastic of the sled that you are supposed to tape over? Or is it a place on the toner cartridge? Is it on the bottom of the sled, or on the side?
I can't find the sensor spot. I've got 4 pieces of Sharpied masking tape littering the sled, and no results.
Thanks.
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by RVdave (edited 9/4/09 9:10 PM) reply | + / - | mastjab - If that model has a low-toner detector there will be a hole/window on each end of the cartridge. Remove the cartridge and hold one end up to a bright light. Looking at the other end you may be able to see light through a hole/window on that end. When the toner gets low the light can go all the way through and be seen by a sensor that tells the printer's "brain" that the toner is low. The light source and sensor are mounted inside the printer cabinet, so there are also corresponding holes in the tray, so the light beam isn't obstructed. The purpose of the tape is to intentionally obstruct the light beam, so the "brain" thinks the cartridge is full. Some block the hole/window on the cartridge, while I blocked the corresponding hole in the tray, it doesn't make any difference as long as the light beam is blocked from reaching the sensor. Hope this helps.
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| Re: Re: Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by Frank Neuner (9/7/09 12:04 PM) reply | + / - | You are the MAN.
Worked like a champ
Frank
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by dominic1 (9/10/09 9:10 AM) reply | + / - | brother printer MFC-7225N
Thanks guys coverd the two light readers and unscrewed the end with the cogs, there is a white plastic lever that needs to move 180 degrees counter clock wise, you cant push it back you need to take out the three screws lift up the plastic casing lift out the top lever section and physically move it back and then it will work fine.
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by H264 (9/12/09 12:16 PM) reply | + / - | I just put the piece of tape on the sensor and got another 500 pages or so, so far. On the brother HL4040CN (and probably the HL4070CDW too) the "window" to tape was on the gear side and was a clear plastic thing hidden behind another plastic guard with a hole that lined up with the clear plastic window.
The plastic window is on both sides of the toner cartridge, so I would presume that on different brother printers, the sensor is on different sides. 3,000 pages later I'm still on the stock toner cartridges.
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by Daniel Coolt I.T. (9/13/09 11:47 AM) reply | + / - | MFC9840CDW
Electrical tape on the right side of the toner.
so far about 700 pages extra and counting... might hit 1000 who knows...
Trick works like a charm, props to the forum ;)
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by RVdave (9/13/09 12:33 PM) reply | + / - | "The plastic window is on both sides of the toner cartridge, so I would presume that on different brother printers, the sensor is on different sides."
It doesn't matter which side of the printer cabinet the light source and sensor is mounted. Blocking the cartridge "window" on either side of the cartridge will keep the light from reaching the sensor, thus defeating the low-toner warning.
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by abajan (9/13/09 1:15 PM) reply | + / - | I reckon this thread must have saved contributors to the thread, lurkers and visitors just passing through looking for solutions to their "empty" toner situation, hundreds of thousands dollars that would have otherwise been unnecessarily spent replacing the cartridges.
Just think about it.
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by Anonymous (9/15/09 6:08 AM) reply | + / - | My GOD! Man! You are the BEST! that little trick gave me many, many, more prints. What a waste of toner if I hadn't looked this problem up. Thanks alot! Tape over the eye thing worked great!
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by woodyb (9/16/09 6:45 PM) reply | + / - | HL-4040CDN
Low warning on all colors except black at same time about 1500 copies on new machine.
Tape cover of holes not effective.
gear end not probable for all at same time.
Must be software.
Tried menue and can not find reset as stated in RVdave 8/27/09 door open and press BACK button
Who has detailed info for this model
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by RVdave (edited 9/16/09 7:37 PM) reply | + / - | woodyb - Try this procedure, that was reported to work on the HL 4050CDN....
For the toner life reset menu:
1 Open the front cover of the printer
2 press and hold the cancel button
3 press the reprint button WHILE still holding cancel
4 If a reset menu displays, reset all the cartridges
Good luck
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by Anonymous (9/17/09 10:27 AM) reply | + / - | YES YOU CAN RIG AN INKJET BROTHER PRINTER TO RUN WITHOUT REPLACING THE COLOR CARTRIDGES!!!
On my Brother MCF 5490 cn I was able to easily slide back the front piece of the printer cartridges and tape over the clear part that becomes exposed. Works like a charm!!! The only thing to worry about is when the remaining ink does dry up, it can damage your printer at a later date if you try to print in color.
Now I am very happy with my brother printer...
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| Re: Brother MFC-9940CDW low toner override by marx (9/17/09 1:55 PM) reply | + / - | i put black tape over each of the four little holes on the tray, as suggested. but i am still getting the "low toner" warning on the LCD display. any other ideas?
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by Sara G (9/17/09 10:27 PM) reply | + / - | Brother HL 5250DN
I tapped the sensor holes on both sides as well as on the printer. Nothing. I then followed JUPPO's instructions:
I want to override toner replacement on a Brother laser HL1400. Anyone know a semi-permanent technique such as the electrical-tape-over for my machine? I used a page reset code, but it's a pain to do it every time I want to print. I don't see an eye or a white switch that is mentioned on other Brothers. Here's the page count reset I'm using if anyone wants it:
1. Open the front cover and leave open while completing the following steps.
2. Turn the printer off.
3. Hold the 'go' button while turning the printer on. All panel lights should be on.
4. Release the 'go' button.
5. Press the 'go' button 2 times.
6. Pause.
7. Press the 'go' button 5 times.
8. The toner light should be off.
9. The paper light should be on or flashing.
10. Close cover. The ready light should be the only light on.
Voila! It works! Thanks all and Thanks Juppo!
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by Anonymous (9/22/09 12:21 PM) reply | + / - | WOW!! Thanks!
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| Brother 9840 Drum Replacement by crazyhorsey (9/22/09 1:44 PM) reply | + / - | Hi!
I'm "technically challenged" and am hoping someone can help me with a drum replacement error.
1. How do I know if it really needs replaced?
2. Are there any tricks to making the drum last longer?
Thanks for all your help--and the great information on the toner replacement strategy!
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by lovryn (9/22/09 4:51 PM) reply | + / - | Hey, it works! Covering the little circular window with tape was so easy and it saves replacing the cartridge, which seemed to be working fine.
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by Anonymous (9/22/09 7:51 PM) reply | + / - | I'm not a scientist or anything but basically when a brother printer says the toner is spent it isn't joking or trying to rip you off. The residual toner in the cartridge isnt' capable of maintaining a proper charge. Continuing to use this "substandard" toner can cause problems down the road. That's the claim and it seems to make sense really. It was explained in detail in the instructions that came with my refill kit detailing why all residual toner should be removed before refilling. I hope this helps to prevent some people from ruining their printers or other expensive parts. Just get a refill kit and save lots of money.
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by abajan (9/23/09 3:16 AM) reply | + / - | Anonymous, considering the sheer quantity of quality printing many of the contributors to this thread have done since getting the “Toner Life End” message, we are hard pressed to believe that only “residual” amounts of toner remains in those cartridges.
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| Re: Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by RVdave (edited 9/23/09 5:15 AM) reply | + / - | Anonymous said - "The residual toner in the cartridge isn't capable of maintaining a proper charge. Continuing to use this "substandard" toner can cause problems down the road."
With all due respect, that doesn't make much sense. Why would the second half of the cartridge toner be any more "substandard" than the first half, particularly since it all came from the same batch? Also, why would only half (1500 copies) of the toner in a small color cartridge be OK while twice that amount would be OK in a black or larger cartridge? Full cartridges do tend to supply more toner, and that's why the flag gear has a tang that adjusts the voltage to maintain copy quality consistency as the toner is depleted.
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by woodyb (9/24/09 7:58 PM) reply | + / - | Re my HL 4040CDN Thanks for the replys but none seemed to work or have enough detail for me to get it done. I found a website for reset of the gears complete with photos and instructions. It is http://www.proprint.co.uk/brother_hl4040.htm good luck
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| Re: Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by Anonymous (9/25/09 7:57 AM) reply | + / - | I have a HL 4040CN, and this fix worked a treat for me. I've only just done it so I don't know how many extra pages I'll get, but will let you know. Power to the people!
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by nickkkk (9/25/09 11:35 PM) reply | + / - | i have the 9040cn with the tn110 toners that come with the printer i started getting low toners and end of life warnings at around 950pages, all my pages are half page full color and other half page black letters. i did the fix and now my page count is 1712pages... 200pages over the normal 1500 tn110 limit... and it is still going strong! these printer companies seriously ripping us off with these false warnings...
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| Re: Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by Anonymous (9/28/09 1:00 PM) reply | + / - | great stuff, works brilliant, an easty solution to a frustrating problem1 turn the cog back - took a little forcing but it worked
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| Re: Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by Steve in SoCal (9/28/09 10:15 PM) reply | + / - | Brett In SoCal,
I just had to thank you so much for that advice. I combed the internet to no avail. And usually I wouldn't have the chance to thank someone for helping me fix my printer because I usually spend all night trying to fix it. Not this time!
You sir, single handedly solved my printer dilemma without tape, markers, or fooling around for hours. Brother should hire you instantly, and I would even give you money for that tip, except I was printing a resume and cover letter for a job interview tomorrow. Unemployed :( So I've currently got none to give.
But think of like this, you may be responsible for me landing me a job tomorrow AM. I'll let you know.
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by Anonymous (10/3/09 3:26 AM) reply | + / - | MFC7420 Brother
Best Solutionposted on Jan 21, 2008
Javelin395
Rank: Apprentice
Rating: 92%, 11 votes
1. Open the front cover door.
2. Press the "Options" button.
3. Type *00 on the keypad.
This will clear the error message.
Enjoy!
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| Re: Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by Anonymous (10/3/09 7:53 AM) reply | + / - | What type of refill do you recommend? Does the quality suffer? Do you refill both black and the color cartridges?
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by greengeek (10/3/09 2:36 PM) reply | + / - | This forum is saving the planet. Can you imagine how much toner has gone into landfills as a result of bogus "low toner" messages??
Personally I love Brother products because of their value for money and the features you get. If only we could convince Brother to let us know these tips and tricks from day one we could get the best value from every gram of toner and they would have even more customers.
I can't stand the brands that write the bogus toner level to an electronic chip on the cartridge - that way you can't do the sort of reset thingy posted on tis forum.
Maybe it's time we took some of these manufacturers to court for environmental destruction.
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge, low reading override by Nigel Grant  (10/6/09 3:14 AM) reply | + / - | Hi. Got a Brother CDW 4070 colour laser printer. I print about 2000 sheets a month, nearly all in black text. I put a little colour on odd lines, perhaps ten words a page. It seems the machine sees any colour as a full colour page. It says the cartridge is empty when it is full - a licence for Brother to print money at about £100 for a colour cartridge.
Can I reset the toner cartridges to stop them telling the printer that a few words means a page?
Thanks for any tips.
Nigel
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by RVdave (edited 10/6/09 8:48 AM) reply | + / - | Nigel said - "Can I reset the toner cartridges to stop them telling the printer that a few words means a page?"
Nigel - Unfortunately, ANY copy made counts as a copy on each cartridge, even though the copy may be all black. Some models allow you to put the printer in a "monochrome" mode, so only the black cartridge is used and the counters for the color cartridges are disabled. The downside of this, however, is that you'd have to switch back to full color mode every time you need some color. Good luck.
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by economan (10/8/09 8:38 AM) reply | + / - | This worked for my HL-2140. Wife was telling me she tried everything even replacing the toner and it kept telling her toner was low. This is a great tip!!
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| No Subject by Anonymous (10/9/09 4:50 PM) reply | + / - | We just refill the toner cartridge but still it shows toner end of life..Please help...
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by abajan (10/9/09 5:15 PM) reply | + / - | “We just refill the toner cartridge but still it shows toner end of life..Please help...” is simply not enough information to help you.
Exactly which model of Brother laser printer are you referring to? Have you carefully read this thread before posting the question? The answer may already be here.
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| Re: Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by CB in Indy (10/10/09 4:10 PM) reply | + / - | Another big thank you!!! Covering the sensors didn't work (if I even found the right ones.) I would never have known how to find the toner reset menu. After replacing the black cartridge, my printer - the 9840 - thought it needed all three color cartridges replaced, too! Too much of a coincidence, could not be true. This website is a true blessing. Thank you, thank you, thank you!
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| Re: Brother HL-2140 prints light after refill by Eldad (10/10/09 7:46 PM) reply | + / - | Have a Brother HL-2140, refilled it's initial TN-330 cart. after emptying the residual toner and installed the extra gears.
Now the print is not black but dark grey, tried all the adjustments I could find but nothing helps except lowering the DPI to 300 which makes the print a bit darker, but still not black.
Any suggestions on what to do?
I did the multi step reset outlined in this forum, the only change is that on the print test page the Toner level indicator graph dropped from 90% to 50%.
Perhaps related: Am not sure about how to set the position of the flag gear, at what "hour" should it point after install?
Please help, thanks, Eldad
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| Re: Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by Anonymous (10/11/09 3:00 AM) reply | + / - | Thanks very much, Dave, for the quick reply. I'm going to try the various resetting/sensor obscuring tips on this forum and will write in if I have any luck.
Nigel
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by eli b. (10/11/09 12:03 PM) reply | + / - | Googled 'brother toner empty' and found this, taped over the clear window on the toner with electrical tape, put the toner cart back in and BOOM, perfect prints!
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by Anonymous (10/12/09 11:20 AM) reply | + / - | I have a HL 4030CN and the taping trick has worked for my magenta and cyan but fails to work on yellow. Anyone else encounter this problem and have you been able to develop a fix?
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by RVdave (10/12/09 11:43 AM) reply | + / - | Anonymous said - "I have a HL 4030CN and the taping trick has worked for my magenta and cyan but fails to work on yellow."
Maybe the reset procedure for the HL 4040CN will work...
1) Open the door as if you were going to change the toners
2) Press the Clear/Back button
3) The Reset Menu appears
4) Reset all of the TNR-S settings(four of them - one for each color). If two settings are shown for each cartridge, reset all 8.
Good luck.
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by Anonymous (10/12/09 1:37 PM) reply | + / - | Dave, thanks for the suggestion but its still a no go. This printer doesn't have a "Clear" button but I assumed "Cancel" was its replacement. Control panel displayed "no data". I also have reset to "Factory Settings"
I've purchased a new yellow toner (the offender) and I continue to receive a "replace cartridge..." message. Cyan and magenta are taped over.
Sort of odd but I get a cyan and magenta toner low message and no mention of yellow until after sending a job.
The offending cartridge set works in another printer. But fails for yellow when returned to the original printer.
Any more suggestions?
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| Re: Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by abajan (10/12/09 5:52 PM) reply | + / - | Anonymous wrote:
“I have a HL 4030CN and the taping trick has worked for my magenta and cyan but fails to work on yellow. Anyone else encounter this problem and have you been able to develop a fix?”
Yes, I had a similar problem (search the thread) and found that, in addition to placing the tape over the window, the cartridge also needed resetting via the printer’s control panel. See if that helps.
BTW, my printer model is the HL-4040CN.
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| Re: Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by RVdave (10/13/09 10:07 AM) reply | + / - | Anonymous said - "This printer doesn't have a "Clear" button but I assumed "Cancel" was its replacement."
Yes, the Cancel button should work. Are you pushing that button with the front of the printer OPEN, so that you can see the handle of the cartridge tray, etc? - Dave
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by Anonymous (10/13/09 5:05 PM) reply | + / - | Printer still isn't working but I did learn, with your help, that I could reset the long life consumables by pressing Go and +.
I'll try the taped cartridges in a different printer tomorrow and report back.
Thanks for the help.
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| MFC-9440CN toner life end - message not cleared by Anonymous (10/16/09 8:15 AM) reply | + / - | Hi there:
I actually replaced the toner cartridge. Used the exact same steps (open cover, hit clear/back butten, reset the black toner by pressing "1", and get out again).
But the "Toner Life End" message is still there!!! What's wrong with my printer?
Thanks for any advice.
Paul
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by papaqin (10/16/09 3:04 PM) reply | + / - | I just had the yellow toner 'end of life' on my HL 4040CDN Brother. I tried the electrical tape thing and nothing worked so I went out and bought a new toner cartridge for $89CAD.
I compared the print copy between the old and new toner under a magnifying glass and could find no difference. After printing about 10 copies with the new cartridge, I put the old cartridge back in and the 'end of life' did not come. The copies were perfect (with the original cartridge). Over 200 more copies and still can't tell the difference.
I just resealed the new cartridge and will wait until the original one is actually empty.
I wonder if I can use the new yellow cartridge to 'reset' the others? Does the printer know which toner is in which slot?
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by blessedtks (10/18/09 12:21 PM) reply | + / - | Worked for me! No more solid yellow toner light or solid red status light. I only have a green status light now! Not having electrical tape I layered up a piece of the handyman's secret weapon and cut it and put it on there. Works great!
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| Re: Re: Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by Anonymous (10/18/09 12:39 PM) reply | + / - | ok so what do you do if there is no switch and your job is fresh out of eletrical tape? I have to get this report done and I'm the only one here and this freaking thing has the toner end life message and won't do anything??????????????? help me please!!!!!!!!!!!
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by abajan (10/18/09 6:38 PM) reply | + / - | Anonymous said:
“ok so what do you do if there is no switch and your job is fresh out of eletrical tape? I have to get this report done and I'm the only one here and this freaking thing has the toner end life message and won't do anything??????????????? help me please!!!!!!!!!!!”
How do people expect to get help if they don’t give enough information? Anonymous, to WHICH MODEL printer are you referring? You need help desperately, yet that vital piece of information is missing! What’s up with that?
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| Re: Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by Stuff4Toys (10/19/09 8:03 AM) reply | + / - | This did for me with my Brother MFC-9840CDW Laser
Perfecto
http://www.langeshome.com/
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| Re: Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by Anonymous (10/20/09 6:42 AM) reply | + / - | it was the hl-4040cdn i tried everything and nothing worked so I just had to get some ink and refill it thanks anyways
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by JPDRUMBUM (10/20/09 7:36 AM) reply | + / - | My Brother 2170 toner light just came on. It still has the original starter toner cartridge. How much more can I print before I need to replace the toner? Thanks.
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| Re: Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by Phibenet (10/22/09 5:12 PM) reply | + / - | Thanks alot for the info greatly appreciated! It worked on my 9840 CDW!
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| Re: Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by Anonymous (10/23/09 1:49 PM) reply | + / - | I follow this for my HL-4070CDW and I'm printing again.
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| Re: Re: Brother toner cartridge flag gear re-set by Anonymous (10/23/09 2:44 PM) reply | + / - | This is a great tip for the mfc9840cdw. I add 2 old black toner. Guess what? One is already back in the printer and all tree colors and black toner are now re-setted and taped.
Tanks a lot.
Pierre
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by Anonymous (10/27/09 9:43 PM) reply | + / - | I have a Brother DCP 7010 Printer. When i replaced the toner cartridge then after 20 Print out machine display is showing that toner life is end. So please help me how can i solve this problem while cartridge is full. Please help me.
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| Re: Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by Farmer Johan (10/31/09 8:24 AM) reply | + / - | My low TONER (color) light came back on again. Searched the internet and found this solution and it worked also for my MFC-9840CDW. You will see after the color an S or H, for small and H Yield. I did the all. After the door open sign came back on I just closed the door. Printed this email, no more LOW TONER message.
Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by Brett In SoCal (6/29/08 4:57 PM) reply + / -
Brother MFC 9440CN Toner Life End Message... The Final Solution!!!
Having gratefully read about how to defeat the toner sensor window with black electrical tape, I went to work.
Sadly, I was crushed to discover that performing this operation did not solve the problem for my accursed unit.
[Do it anyway as it will save you from these annoyingly premature warnings in future!]
Reading further, I became convinced that a reset process similar to that used to solve this problem for the Brother 2040 and 7420 models was also required here.
With nothing more to go on than responses to my emails from the good people (knuckleheads) at Brother telling me only how to install a new cartridge, I began poking around on my own 'till, after much swearing and gnashing of teeth, I figured it out:
1. With power on, open the toner access main door (You will get a "door open" message in the LCD.)
2. Hit the "Clear/Back" button and... ta-dah!!! you go right to the “Toner Reset Menu” (cue Vienna Boy's choir sounds here).
3. Using the up ^ Down > "Search" arrow buttons, you can then scroll through reset options for each of the printer's [4] toner cartridges!
Code: B. = black; C. = cyan; M. = magenta and Y. = yellow
4. For each for these cartridges is the option to reset for low yield = S (small?) or High Yield = H
5. Using the number keypad, select option #1 (to reset each to the size you have installed.
6. Hit the "Clear/Back" button to get out of the menu, close door ad the problem is FINALLY solved.
Cheers!
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| Re: Brother toner cart - prints grey, not black by Eldad (10/31/09 8:46 AM) reply | + / - | A repeat of my asking for help from 3 weeks ago, perhaps someone who did not see it before has a suggestion or solution?
Have a Brother HL-2140, refilled it's initial TN-330 cart. after emptying the residual toner and installed the extra gears.
Now the print is not black but dark grey (density is too low), tried all the adjustments I could find but nothing helps except lowering the DPI to 300 which makes the print a bit darker, but still not black.
Any suggestions on what to do?
I did the multi step reset outlined in this forum and covered the tonner window with black tape, the only change is that on the print test page the Toner level indicator graph dropped from 90% to 50%.
Perhaps related: Am not sure about how to set the position of the flag gear, at what "hour" of an imaginary clock should it's white flag point after installation?
Thanks for any help, Eldad
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by nick3 (10/31/09 9:23 AM) reply | + / - | haha i now print till the toner is empty... the roller on the cartridge is completely dry.. haha maybe this will shorten the printer part's life.. but i don't care haha
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by Farmer Johan (11/1/09 11:42 AM) reply | + / - | For the TN-110 cartridge, has anybody found a place that sells the the reset gear that needs to be used to make it a NT-115. The NT-110 has a grey gear with 1 rib (finger) but the NT-115 has 2 ribs (fingers) to give wire a higher voltage if completely filled. My full refill in the cartridge that came with the printer TN-110 is working fine, but would like to get the right gear for it. I found a place in Australia on eBay, but only sells the gear with the refills as an extra.
Looking forward to hear about a place where I can get them,
Farmer Johan
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| Re: Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by Anonymous (11/1/09 5:38 PM) reply | + / - | I also have the MFX-440CN but want to be sure what to put the black tape over. Is it at the bottom of the thin side of the cartridge & looks like a camera lens?
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| Re: Brother toner cartridge low toner override by caryboe (11/6/09 9:32 AM) reply | + / - | I successfully reset my genuine Brother TN-110 Cyan, Magenta and Yellow cartridges. I have a 4040CDN and no amount of sensor covering - via electrical tape or sharpie black marker was working for me but thanks to reading through all of the threads on this site, as well as other googling, I was able to re-set them with the internal gear re-shift. In my opinion, and I am a former Xerox filed technician, it seems impossible to re-set them without performing this step. The photo that says "Set the reset gear and spring as shown." - the second to the last step is all you need to know. http://www.proprint.co.uk/brother_hl4040.htm Hope this helps someone. I'm curious to see how many extra prints I will get out of them...if anyone's interested, I'll post again when I actually "have to" replace them.
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