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 | THE FIRST GUIDE IN TAKING BACK YOUR HP OFFICEJET! by dexfurax (3/11/05 7:24 AM) | +9 + / - | I HAVE GOTTEN AN OFFICEJET D135 FOR FREE, AND FOR GOOD REASON. BOTH INK TANKS WERE NEAR FULL AND EXPIRED, AND ALL 4 PRINT HEADS ARE DRY AS A BONE. BELOW IS A PLAY BY PLAY ON 1.) RESETTING A D135 TO USE EXPIRED CART'S AND 2.) MAKING OLD DYING PRINT HEADS (THAT GIVE YOU THE DAMN IDS FAILURE CALL HP MESSAGE)...
A.) RESETTING THE PRINTER TO ACCEPT ANY TANKS
1. UNPLUG THE PRINTER FROM BOTH THE COMPUTER AND POWER
SUPPLY
2. USE A SMALL SCREWDRIVER OR SOMETHING ABOUT 1/8" IN DIAMATER TO PUSH OUT THE HINGE PINS ON THE 2 MAIN SUPPORT WHEN YOU OPEN THE PRINTER TO SERVICE IT (BE WARNED *NOT* TO OPEN THE PRINTER UP TO FAST, OR TO FAR WITH THE PINS OUT!! I DID THIS AND DIDN'T REALIZE THE TOP PRINTER COVER WOULD REACH its OPENING POINT, AS SUCH HAD TO GLUE BACK THE HINGE POINTS ON THE TOP SCANNER COVER!!)
3.) WITH THE TOP FULLY OPEN, AND HINGES OUT, YOU CAN SEE MUCH BETTER INTO THE LEFT SIDE OF THE PRINTER. THERE RIGHT INFRONT OF YOU IS A 3.3V STANDARD CMOS/BIOS BATTERY YOUR USED TO SEEING IN YOUR PC. USE A PAPERCLIP, SMALL PLYERS WHATEVER TO GET IT OUT, AND LEAVE IT OUT OVER AN HOUR.
4.) REVERSE THE ABOUT STEPS TO HE LETTER, INSTALLING THE BATTERY FIRST. WHEN YOUR PRINTER NOW STARTS THE TIME WILL BE JAN 00 00 00:00 - DON'T WORRY, FOR SOME REASON IF YOU USE THE DIRECTOR SOFTWARE AVAIL. ON THE HP WEBSITE, AND DIRECT LINK THE TIME/DATE WITH THE COMPUTER, THE PRINTER WILL AUTO CORRECT ITSELF EVERYTIME YOU START THE PRINTER TO GET AWAY FROM THE JAN 00 00 00:00. IT'S A GLITCH IN THE HARDWARE IN THE PRINTER, ASSUMING IT ONLY CHECK THE FLASHED ROM ON THE PRINTER CART'S ON POWERUP, IN WHICH THE TIME SAYS JAN 00 00 00:00, AND ALL IS GOOD. I AM CURRENTLY USING A COLOR CART THAT IS 13 MONTHS EXPIRED. AND UNLIKE WHAT HP WILL TELL YOU, TANKS NEVER WILL EXPIRE, THEY ARE SPONGES - PLAIN AN SIMPLE -... NEXT, HOW TO FIX YOUR PRINT HEADS, AND GET AWAY FROM THE DAMN "IDS FAILURE - CALL HP" MESSAGE.
B.) CLEANING AND FIXING YOUR HP D135 PRINT HEADS
1.) FIRST MESSAGE OF WARNING, MAKE DAMN SURE YOU HAVE THE FUNDS FOR NEW INK CART'S OR AS I'M ASSUMING KNOW HOW TO SAVE HUNDREADS AND REFILL YOUR OWN TANKS.
2.) ALL HP INKS ARE PIGMENT BASED, IN A WATER SOLUTION. THAT SAID, LIKE WATERCOLORS, GUESS WHAT CLEANS HP INKS?? WATER OR BETTER YET SOMETHING WITH A BIT OF HOUSEHOLD AMMONIUM - WINDEX. I STARTED WITH A PRINTER THAT HAD BEEN LEFT IN A TRUNK FOR 4 MONTHS, AND DEAD, AND ENDED WITH ONE THAT CAN PRINT AMAZING COLOR - GLOSSY PRINTS.
3.) QUITE SIMPLY, TAKE A PLATE YOUR NEVER GOING TO USE AGAIN, AND NO NOT PAPER, A ROLL OF PAPER TOWEL, AND A BOTTLE OF WINDEX. SIMPLY TEAR OFF ABOUT 4 - 5 SHEETS OF PAPER TOWEL, SOAK WITH WINDEX, AND SET YOUR PRINTHEADS (JET SIDE DOWN ON THE TOWEL) AS WE ALL KNOW THERE ARE 4 PRINT HEADS, AND THE DON'T LAY FLAT TO EXPOSE ALL THE INKJETS, I PUT TAPE BETWEEN 2 SETS, TO GET THEM TO HAVE MAX INKJET EXPOSURE, THEN SET 2 - 3 LBS OF WEIGHT ON THEM (THINK SMALL BOOK). LET THEM SET FOR A FEW HOURS TO OVERNIGHT. A FEW HOURS FOR A LOT OF CLOGS, OVERNIGHT IF THEY ARE NOT PRINTING AT ALL. YOU CAN TELL FROM A TEST PRINT PAGE REPORT (*3 *5). IF YOU GET AN IDS OR DEAD HEAD ERROR, PRESS ENTER AND IT WILL PRINT ANYWAY.
4.) THE SCIENCE BEHIND WHY THIS WORKS. WINDEX IS 90%+ WATER A MOSTLY THE REST AMMONIUM. INKJETS USE TINY HEAT ELEMENTS TO "SPRAY" INK ON THE PAGE. IF THEY HAVE DRIED INK UP IN THE ELEMENT, OR THE PIPE TO THE NOZZEL, ALL THE CLEAN CYCLES IN THE WORLD WON'T WORK (TRUST ME, I TRIED). THE WINDEX, WORKS IN REVERSE, THE WATER/AMMONIA SOLUTION WORKS BACKWARDS UP THE PIPE, VIA THE NOZZLE INTO THE HEATER AND HEAD ITSELF.
5.) AFTER A FEW DOZEN PRINT CYCLES, THIS WILL FIX ANY LEVEL OF CLOG!! MIND YOU, YOU MAY HAVE TO RE-WINDEX IF YOU GET ANY IDS ERRORS, BUT MINE HAVE HAPPENED ONCE SINCE MY INITAL 3 HOUR SOAKING IN WINDEX, AND ONLY TO THE CYAN.
HOPE THIS LITTLE GUIDE HELPS, IT'S MY FIRST, I WILL START WRITING MORE AS I CAN FIND THE TIME, AND THE NEED. IT'S INSANE HP NOW MAKES THE COMMON PERSON THINK TANKS CAN EXPIRE, AND HEADS ARE EVER DEAD... IF YOU DON'T KNOW, YOU CAN REFILL YOUR TANKS USUALLY 4 - 6 TIMES WITH A 20.00 REFILL KIT OFF E-BAY. AS WITH ALL THINGS E-BAY MAKE SURE YOUR SUPPLIER USES GOOD QUALITY INKS (PIGMENT/DYE BASED - THERE IS A DIFFRENCE!!) AND LOOK AT THE SAVINGS, 20.00 FOR A BLACK/CMY COLOR REFILL KIT) OR OVER 300.00 FOR THE SAME NEW TANKS AT A LOCAL RETAIL SHOP!!
- DEXFURAX@HOTMAIL.COM IN CHICAGO - LOOKING FOR A NEW CAREER!! HINT HINT... :)
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 | Re: THE FIRST GUIDE IN TAKING BACK YOUR HP OFFICEJET! by Anonymous (3/11/05 7:59 AM) | + / - | You're not a genius......
Every smart printer tech do that.
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| Re: Re: THE FIRST GUIDE IN TAKING BACK YOUR HP OFFICEJET! by Anonymous (3/11/05 8:06 AM) | + / - | This guy actually took the time to answer all the questions that I have. The A$$clown who responed above is an idiot, were's all not "printer techs" moron. Some of us out here want information, that's easy to understand and get to the bottom of. If you research other forums, you'll see there are tons of questions and answers on how to do both. Get a life, and leave this guy alone, atleast he's trying to help, what are you doing today?
- Brian
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| Re: THE FIRST GUIDE IN TAKING BACK YOUR HP OFFICEJET! by Anonymous (3/11/05 9:18 AM) | + / - | Hey,
This is a rule:
If you're a dilettante in this field don't touch any printer with a problem. Do you fix your car if it has any problem. It's one of the reasons why HP build a lot disposable printer for you DA.
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| Re: THE FIRST GUIDE IN TAKING BACK YOUR HP OFFICEJET! by Anonymous (3/11/05 9:35 AM) | + / - | Don't know about you DA, but new that printer (the D135 is around 450 - 550.00) I would love to come work for you where 500.00USD is disposable as you said. Myself, I would work on my own printer/car for something small, like ink and batteries, an idiot can fix that stuff... just my 2 cents.
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| Re: THE FIRST GUIDE IN TAKING BACK YOUR HP OFFICEJET! by Anonymous (3/11/05 9:44 AM) | + / - | Just say HP thanks for this price.
10 years ago a prise of HP Laserjets were more than 1K and 90% of them still works.
How long will work your printer. You get what you pay for. "Profit" instead of "quality" has become the way of life.
Good luck.
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| Re: THE FIRST GUIDE IN TAKING BACK YOUR HP OFFICEJET! by SMH (3/23/05 10:15 AM) | + / - | Well done . This is agood piece of research and helped me a lot. Could you please tell me how to open up the D135 printer to clean the ink box inside. I hav been able to get the scanner box off but cannot remove the side plasitc panels.
thank
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| Re: THE FIRST GUIDE IN TAKING BACK YOUR HP OFFICEJET! by Bill Kunert (3/23/05 1:57 PM) | +1 + / - | Thanks for the info. I have one slight disagreement with your post. Most HP black cartridges use pigment based inks. Most of their color and photo inks, including photo black, are dye based and don't have solids. Color and photo cartridges have smaller nozzles than black cartridges to enable higher resolution color printing and putting pigment based inks in them will clog the nozzles.
Regards
Bill
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| Re: THE FIRST GUIDE IN TAKING BACK YOUR HP OFFICEJET! by Anonymous (3/31/05 8:16 AM) | + / - | Many thanks for your most excellent information. I followed your suggestion with this one addition. I shorted the battery contacts after removal (with unplugged printer) to discharge any residual components, re-inserted the battery, replaced the hinge pins, powered back up and was printing with the refilled cartridges in 10 minutes. Since I am a computer service rep, and not a printer specialist, printer information like this, especially valid information, is always something I can use.
Good work.
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| Re: THE FIRST GUIDE IN TAKING BACK YOUR HP OFFICEJET! by ted_s (4/5/05 10:39 PM) | + / - | I followed your directions but when I elect 'color calibration'only yellow prints. When I select 'align printheads' I get an error msg telling me to check magneta. I ahve, it's seated. What next?
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| Re: THE FIRST GUIDE IN TAKING BACK YOUR HP OFFICEJET! by Anonymous (4/16/05 2:12 AM) | + / - | Thanks,
you are a genius! And the Anon guy above, well he obviously works for HP!!!
BTW. I used the shorting method, and reset in 10 mins!
Thanks again all.
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| Re: THE FIRST GUIDE IN TAKING BACK YOUR HP OFFICEJET! by pcmeneertje (4/16/05 3:15 AM) | + / - | before you take out the hinges, first remove the feeder.
when you lift the feeder you will notice 2 plugs in front of the hinges, pull out the plugs, now you can remove the feeder.
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| Re: THE FIRST GUIDE IN TAKING BACK YOUR HP OFFICEJET! by estellevw (4/16/05 12:53 PM) | + / - | This was incredibly helpful! It worked! Thanks.
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| Re: THE FIRST GUIDE IN TAKING BACK YOUR HP OFFICEJET! by kwl (5/10/05 9:13 AM) | + / - | Folks,
There is a code and a procedure for entering that code that will disable the hp d135 from bothering to check the fill level to the serial of the tanks, which effectively disables the hp from stopping the use of refilled tanks? It will always report a zero level in the ink level and you'll need to pay attention to refilling the tanks before they actually do go dry and ruining(or simply clogging?) the heads. I don't know if the code has any use other than the proceduree outlined here but if it helps....
I've entered it into my d135 and have been able to refill all of the tanks numerous times without issue, always refilling as the ink lightened up rather than waiting. I'm going to try this cleaning procedure as I'm getting an IDS error, which I expect will fix it.
If I can find the code and procedure(there are actually several codes that do other useful things)I will post it here, or perhaps someone already has the reference.
Thanks for the very useful info..
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| Re: THE FIRST GUIDE IN TAKING BACK YOUR HP OFFICEJET! by RobertM (5/10/05 11:54 AM) | + / - | Here is an "official" writeup on the care and feeding =
h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?dlc=en&lc=en&product=64986&lang=e n&cc=us&docname=bpa02107
(If you copy to your browser address, this is a long entry, starting with= http:// ... and ending with bpa02107)
Or if the link is broken by the time you try it, the title of the article is = "HP Officejet D and 7100 Series and HP cp1160 Printers with HP 14 Printheads - No Printhead or Bad Printhead Error Messages" which you should be able to Google.
A good writeup on disabling the ink level checking may be found here=
Overriding the ink level gauge:
www.alotofthings.com/supportforrefillers/resettingthehpC5010A5011A.htm l
And again, I appreciate the inexpensive printer from HP, as well as the high quality, usefull information from the user community.
Robert M
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| Re: THE FIRST GUIDE IN TAKING BACK YOUR HP OFFICEJ by msu94 (5/23/05 12:17 PM) | + / - | What is a good refill kit for the D135?
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| Re: THE FIRST GUIDE IN TAKING BACK YOUR HP OFFICEJET! by Gary Phillips (5/31/05 2:42 PM) | +1 + / - | Can anyone tell me where I can download the HP Officejet Director software for my Hp D135. I can't find it anywhere?
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 | Re: THE FIRST GUIDE IN TAKING BACK YOUR HP OFFICEJET! by dunz (6/3/05 2:20 PM) | + / - | Quote "JET SIDE DOWN ON THE TOWEL". Which side is this? Please describe and thanks for your time.
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| Jet Side Down / Refill Kits / Drivers by Dexfurax (6/3/05 2:45 PM) | +1 + / - | First off... in reverse order...
Jet Side Down = the bottom of the print head looks like 2 darker copper color contacts with a light copper "middle" part... it's in the middle where the individual ink ports are.
HP OfficeJet Director Software is at www.hp.com... look around for a search box and put in D135. This will lead you to a page that you can find the new drivers and app's on.
A good refill kit... hmm... go to e-bay and check out this link..
http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQfgtpZ1QQfrppZ25QQsassZtruecolorimaging
the seller is True Color Imaging, who I use and have had no problems with.
Hope this helps, have a great day!!
- Jon
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| Re: THE FIRST GUIDE IN TAKING BACK YOUR HP OFFICEJ by msu94 (6/10/05 12:39 PM) | + / - | Well I have cleaned the printheads, the color ones bled quite a bit, but not much from the Black.
It give me an error message that the black ink is bad, but I bought a new black cartridge a couple months ago. It will not try and do any cleaning or aligning, lcd indicates it will, then a second later, it goes back to the time display. Does not try and print at all, although it would at least try before doing the printhead cleaning
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| Re: THE FIRST GUIDE IN TAKING BACK YOUR HP OFFICEJ by msu94 (6/10/05 5:02 PM) | + / - | Did a full reset, took out the battery for a while, also did the reset method mentioned on the HP website. Also cleaned that sensor on the inside of the printer too.
However it still does the same thing, telling me my new black ink cartridge is at zero percent, and the "black ink bad" error. Wont try to align or clean either.
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| Re: THE FIRST GUIDE IN TAKING BACK YOUR HP OFFICEJET! by Tarmac (6/24/05 5:58 PM) | + / - | **** Brilliant
Ta
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| Re: THE FIRST GUIDE IN TAKING BACK YOUR HP OFFICEJET! by qwe123a (6/29/05 11:19 AM) | + / - | Need help. I don't understand this:
"AS WE ALL KNOW THERE ARE 4 PRINT HEADS, AND THE DON'T LAY FLAT TO EXPOSE ALL THE INKJETS
"the don't lay flat"?
I PUT TAPE BETWEEN 2 SETS (what tape and where?), TO GET THEM TO HAVE MAX INKJET EXPOSURE, THEN SET 2 - 3 LBS OF WEIGHT ON THEM. (Do you put the book on top of the print head themeselves?)
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| Re: THE FIRST GUIDE IN TAKING BACK YOUR HP OFFICEJ by msu94 (7/1/05 3:15 PM) | + / - | The other day, I found a black printhead for the D135 on clearance for six and change at Office Depot. There clearance merchandise can vary, but give it a try. It rang up in their system at that price, so maybe even if it is on the rack, have it scanned.
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| Re: THE FIRST GUIDE IN TAKING BACK YOUR HP OFFICEJ by Ken Boldt (7/11/05 6:57 AM) | + / - | Thanks for the printhead cleaning instructions - a one-day soak in windex restored a magenta printhead that had been dead for over year.
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| Re: THE FIRST GUIDE IN TAKING BACK YOUR HP OFFICEJET! by Stephen  (7/11/05 7:38 AM) | + / - | Try just swishing the nozzles, (part the ink sprays out of), in warm water for a minute and then blotting them on a folded paper towel.
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| Re: THE FIRST GUIDE IN TAKING BACK YOUR HP OFFICEJET! by me (7/12/05 5:34 PM) | + / - | Idot, whatever you do dont pry the battery out with anything, this does fix your failure by removing the battery, but you will end up breaking the the battery clip, like this idot broke his hinges, gently take twisters and slowly pull battery up, THANkS for helping me break my battery clip......No more back up memory on my printer. IDOT
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| Re: Re: THE FIRST GUIDE IN TAKING BACK YOUR HP OFFICEJET! by Anonymous (7/17/05 9:33 PM) | +1 + / - | Hey Me,
next time you try to call someone else an idiot, watch your spelling. This guy obviously did not break his battery clip, because he was smart enough to realize it was there and pry gently.
You must have been at this page looking for info on how to fix your printer, did you find it?
Your the Idiot, yes, there is a second I in Idiot
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| Re: THE FIRST GUIDE IN TAKING BACK YOUR HP OFFICEJET! by Stephen (7/18/05 7:17 AM) | + / - | It's spelled "You're" if you mean you are.
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| Re: THE FIRST GUIDE IN TAKING BACK YOUR HP OFFICEJET! by Anonymous (7/18/05 8:27 AM) | + / - | I think he was referring to himself as Idiot?
But, if not, Hey! Everyone's just trying to help!
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| Re: Re: THE FIRST GUIDE IN TAKING BACK YOUR HP OFF by Gaspi (7/18/05 8:54 PM) | + / - | Ummm...yeah...A lot of us DO fix our cars when they have a problem. Watch out. You might break a nail.
Hey, guy. Thanks for the instructions. A guy on ebay is selling this for $5. HUH!
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| Re: THE FIRST GUIDE IN TAKING BACK YOUR HP OFFICEJ by msu94 (7/18/05 11:15 PM) | + / - | I just recieved a replacement black cartridge, on the drive to my house, it blew up in the package, probably from the change in elevation.
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| Re: THE FIRST GUIDE IN TAKING BACK YOUR HP OFFICEJ by msu94 (7/22/05 2:03 PM) | + / - | Well I think my D135 is officially resurrected now. It now prints, with the replacement black cartridge, and also the cleaning of the color print heads. It might need a few more cleaning cycles to officially get the color completely to normal, and maybe a new cartrdige, but it is printing.
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| Re: THE FIRST GUIDE IN TAKING BACK YOUR HP OFFICEJ by toomuch (7/23/05 3:23 PM) | + / - | so i'm trying to clean my printheads to no avail. the cyan was working for a while and now the printer reports it's bad again. i actually think that the "Clean Printheads" function of the officejet is contributing to the problem. There is a tray on the right hand side that has two rubber tabs that slide back and forth across the jet. those are covered in old dry ink. I cannot seem to figure out how to take those out to verify. Anyone experience something similar? Anyone know where I can get a copy of the service manual?
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| Re: THE FIRST GUIDE IN TAKING BACK YOUR HP OFFICEJ by msu94 (7/26/05 10:51 AM) | + / - | I used windex around in there to clean up.
Anyone have any experience with the remanufactured cartridges on ebay? How is the color?
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| Re: THE FIRST GUIDE IN TAKING BACK YOUR HP OFFICEJET! by Anonymous (8/2/05 9:59 AM) | + / - | Do you think this ammonia soaking fix would work on the black printhead of an Officejet 7130xi ?
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| Re: THE FIRST GUIDE IN TAKING BACK YOUR HP OFFICEJET! by Anonymous (8/3/05 6:12 PM) | + / - |
How many of you have seen this?
http://www.alotofthings.com/
Hewlett Packard Cartridge Lawsuit
You have heard about the lawsuit against HP regarding cartridges that are allegedly programmed to fail prematurely. Here is the link for the sign-up if you feel you have been cheated by prematurely expired cartridges.
Register your Hewlett Packard Ink Cartridge Case
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| Re: Re: THE FIRST GUIDE IN TAKING BACK YOUR HP OFFICEJET! by Anonymous (8/9/05 7:30 AM) | + / - | I've been a professional computer/printer technician for over 10 years. Albert Einstein said something of this nature...I don't need to know everything, I just need to know where to find it. The person that generously donated his time and experience to share with all has provided me with valuable knowledge of resetting the CMOS to clear the color ink error that I'm experiencing. So Mr. "you're not a genius" make an apology! Cordially, Jeff
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| Re: THE FIRST GUIDE IN TAKING BACK YOUR HP OFFICEJET! by Anonymous (8/9/05 9:43 AM) | + / - | Folks,
My d135 has plastic tabs shaped like little arrows on the bottom of those cover hinges. I used the tip about the pull-the-tabs on the scanner cover posted above and was able to pull the scanner cover off completely and cleanly.
Then I pried those arrow-shaped tabs back a tad with a finger, just enough to help the hinge slide by and released the bottom of that inward-folding hinge from one side, repeated it on the other hinge and Voila! both hinges were completely free from their bases and the top cover folded cleanly and safely back without the scanner or anything else in the way. When I went to re-assemble I slid the hinges back into their bases until the hinge clicked back into place.
Also, I used a business card to slide between the battery and its top contact arm-piece-thing. This should work, No? As long as the battery isn't in play I can leave it in, shorted out of the circuit, and wait for the hour to go by to discharge any left over charge in the electronics and that should do the trick.
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| Re: THE FIRST GUIDE IN TAKING BACK YOUR HP OFFICEJET! by Anonymous (8/9/05 9:51 AM) | + / - | Folks,
A quick guide to what is posted on the link above about entering codes to disable ink-level checking. There's other useful stuff but here's a quick guide for that.
The menu has to be at its default display, press "cancel" until it displays just the date/time display.
Press the left-arrow and right-arrow keys at the same time. The display will go blank, then type in 789 on the keypad, it will ask "Disable Ink-level checking 1-Yes 2-No". Press 1 on the keypad and it will disable Black Ink Level Checking.
Press the right-arrow and left-arrow at the same time again and then enter 456, it will prompt "Disable color ink level checking, 1-Yes, 2-No". Press 1 and it will disable ink-level checking for the color cartidges.
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 | Re: THE FIRST GUIDE IN TAKING BACK YOUR HP OFFICEJET! by Wayfarer (8/11/05 7:07 AM) | + / - | I have pushed my HP Officejet D135 to its limit and it keeps on chugging... and yes, I do refill my carts..
Originally I purchased it used (off ebay) and added a duplexer. No problems thus far, 2,000 pages later it stops printing and I decide to replace the printheads (lol, again used) and it takes right off... now 10,000 pages later its print quality is dropping. I cleaned the printheads using my own method (pretty close to whats written above) and MOST problems have been fixed, except when I print text - it looks a bit blocky/grainy... any ideas... I am going to order new printheads/carts anyway being this printer has been a workhorse for me and my business
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| Re: THE FIRST GUIDE IN TAKING BACK YOUR HP OFFICEJET! by jimsimm (8/12/05 12:46 PM) | +2 + / - | Thanks for the great information. I have a problem with the scanner on my d135. The auto feed starts up, makes a loud clicking noise then scans a few pages before it stops and says "scanner failure." I can scan 3 or 4 pages using the doc feeder fine, but no more than that. Anyone else have this problem?
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| Re: Re: THE FIRST GUIDE IN TAKING BACK YOUR HP OFF by Wayfarer (8/12/05 1:29 PM) | + / - | This may or may not be a solution for you, but this is what I incurred...
When using HPs scanning program, I was recieving all kinds of scanner errors and it wouldn't (like you) take more than a few pages when it would work.. the solution I found was to not use HPs program. I started just using Windows XPs scanning program and it works just fine..
Like I said, this may or my not work for you ... especially if your having a "hardware" problem, but it may be worth a try
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| Re: THE FIRST GUIDE IN TAKING BACK YOUR HP OFFICEJET! by jimsimm (8/12/05 1:58 PM) | + / - | I just re-filled my ink carts and installed them. Now I getting a message that the "color ink is bad." any ideas what to do?
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| Re: Re: Re: THE FIRST GUIDE IN TAKING BACK YOUR HP OFF by Anonymous (8/12/05 10:37 PM) | +2 + / - | I'm having the "scanner failure" error on the d135, brought it to the shop, was told the scanner bulb was going out and couldn't get a replacement part. The guy actually referred to the unit as a 40 lb paperweight, not good for anything else.
I've only had the printer for 3 yrs in a home office atmosphere and thought that a $500+ unit by HP would last longer than this. It's really hard for me to believe some of the posts here that state their unit has lasted for several years. It's also unbelievable to me that a company like HP would make products that you can't get parts for, especially something like a scanner bulb. The bulb is not even listed on the HP Parts Store site.
Any ideas or suggestions? I would really like to know before I turn it in for recycling.
Thanks, Patty
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| Re: THE FIRST GUIDE IN TAKING BACK YOUR HP OFFICEJET! by Anonymous (8/20/05 1:42 PM) | + / - | You are a good man.
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| Re: Re: Re: THE FIRST GUIDE IN TAKING BACK YOUR HP OFF by Anonymous (8/24/05 1:47 PM) | + / - | I get a scanner error message at least every day!
I have to turn on/off the machine 3-4 times, then it goes away!
How do you switch to use xp's scanner software, and does this have an effect on the other functions of the d135?
thanx
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| Re: Re: Re: Re: THE FIRST GUIDE IN TAKING BACK YOUR HP OFF by jimsimm (8/24/05 2:09 PM) | + / - | "How do you switch to use xp's scanner software, and does this have an effect on the other functions of the d135?"
Go to START, ACCESSORIES, then click on Scanner and Camera Wizard. Doesn't have any other effect on any functions of the paperweight -- I mean the d135. I only did it once, but it worked without getting an error message. I only put 4 or 5 pages in the feeder, sometimes I don't get a scanner error message unless I put in more but it did work once and I'll continue using it this way as long as it seems to work. Good luck.
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| Re: THE FIRST GUIDE IN TAKING BACK YOUR HP OFFICEJET! by jimsimm (8/24/05 2:56 PM) | + / - | Nevermind, just tried faxing again using the windows xp scanner tool and got the error message.
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| No Subject by Gerald Dunham (8/24/05 6:07 PM) | + / - | First of all, just a note of sincere gratitude to the original poster... He went through all his trials and tribulations, took notes, and shared ALL, including his missteps. HOW BEAUTIFUL IS THAT??? Generosity like that, nowadays especially, is somewhat rare, and I applaud it, loud applause, two thumbs up, 5 stars!
And, yes, it was hilarious that the angry idiot couldn't spell the word idiot. A CLASSIC, and MAJOR LOLs!!! Peace to all, God bless us all. (personally, I use WORD to check my spelling! HA!)
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Disabling or resetting the C5010A & C5011A ink Level Indicators.
(HP #14 ink cartridges)
Overriding the ink level gauge is a method developed by Hewlett Packard for those who wish to refill or use recycled ink jet cartridges.
We recommend viewing your HP owners manual for your particular model to determine the best method for you particular model and firmware version. Information on disabling ink level gauge can be found either in your owners manual or can be downloaded from Hewlett Packard web site. (www.hp.com).
For printer models not listed below please refer to your owners manual for disabling/overriding ink level gauge.
Refilled ink cartridges:
To install a refilled HP ink cartridge, you must override the Ink Level Gauge.
HP INK JET MULTI-FUNCTIONS D125 / D135 / D145 / D155
Overriding the Ink Level Gauge disables the printer’s ink level tracking feature, but allows you to use a refilled cartridge.
Caution! If you use the override sequence described below, you will disable the Ink Level Gauge for your ink cartridge. If you choose to continue printing with an ink cartridge that has had its Ink Level Gauge disabled, you will not know when the cartridge is running low or empty. Printing with an empty cartridge may seriously damage your print heads. Damage that results from continued use of an ink cartridge with a disabled Ink Level Gauge is not the responsibility of Hewlett-Packard. Damage that results from the use of non-HP ink is not the responsibility of Hewlett-Packard.
The Ink Level Gauge is automatically reset when a different ink cartridge is installed in the printer. Overriding the Ink Level Gauge does not affect ink cartridge expiration dates. The printer cannot use an expired ink cartridge.
Follow these steps to override the Ink Level Gauge:
To override the ink level gauge for the black ink cartridge
1 On the keypad press LEFT ARROW and RIGHT ARROW at the same time, then release.
2 On the keypad, press in order, 7, 8, 9.
3 When the prompt appears asking if you want to override the ink level gauge, press 1 for Yes, or 2 for No.
To override the ink level gauge for the tri-color ink cartridge
1 On the keypad press LEFT ARROW and RIGHT ARROW at the same time, then release.
2 On the keypad, press in order, 4, 5, 6.
3 When the prompt appears asking if you want to override the ink level gauge, press 1 for Yes, or 2 for No.
Always install an ink cartridge before performing an Ink Level Gauge override.
To restore factory defaults
You can restore the original factory settings to what they were when you purchased your HP OfficeJet. Choosing to restore your factory defaults restores all settings, except copy settings, speed-dial entries, date, and fax header information. You can perform this process from the front panel only.
1 Press Menu.
2 Press 7, then press 5. This selects the Status and Maintenance menu, then selects the Restore Factory Defaults option. The factory default settings are restored.
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| Re: THE FIRST GUIDE IN TAKING BACK YOUR HP OFFICEJET! by claudia752 (8/25/05 7:18 AM) | + / - | I am so glad that I chanced upon this site wh
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| Re: No Subject by Anonymous (9/1/05 8:22 AM) | + / - | Yes disabling the ink readouts is doable...the directions are right in the d135 manual from HP.....but beware.....
you need to refill religiously or you'll dry out the print heads...I've done that 4 times! and they cost more!...and I can't figure out how to fix'em!
They've got a tiny bag inside with spring loaded pincers squeezing the bag.....yes I took the little bastard apart!
The answer I think is to refill evrrything every 2-3 weeks, or buy discount cartridges!
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| Re: THE FIRST GUIDE IN TAKING BACK YOUR HP OFFICEJET! by claudia752 (9/1/05 7:55 PM) | + / - | I discovered the problem with the print heads drying out also. I only tried this tonight, but so far so good. I took the syringe that came with my refill system and dripped some ink down on the circular rubber "thingy" on top of the print head assembly. I then gently pressed down on the rubber part. When I pushed down on the rubber part I could see the ink disappear. I probably dripped about 1 ml or less ink. I wore gloves and was careful to gently wipe off the top so as not to spill any ink. I made sure the ink supply sponge was moist and put everything back together. It worked great. The printer no longer says damaged print head. Hope it lasts.
Claudia
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| Re: THE FIRST GUIDE IN TAKING BACK YOUR HP OFFICEJET! by Robert Alexander (9/7/05 11:40 AM) | + / - | The person who gave instructions is a nice guy - thanks to him we can do maintenance and repairs! Thanks for the posting the info.
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| Printhead by odoboy (9/8/05 12:37 AM) | +1 + / - | Hello to all!
I would like to contribute to this thread with some more stuff i came upon with my hp officejet d145.
First of all i bought it off ebay, used, without printheads or cartridges. Then i bought a refurbished hp printer (i think c1170 or something like that) that has the same mechanism and same cartridges and printheads like the d145. The refurbished printer came with sealed cartridges and printheads that i used for my d145 and i also swapped the mechanism from this printer to the d145.
Everything worked perfect for quite a while...about a year of printing...i would say at least 5000 pages in my case. I refilled the cartridges all the time trying to make sure the printheads don't run dry.
But...a very annoying problem developed...the color printheads would get dry and if i didn't use the printer for a few days i had to clean the printheads and print primer pages just to be able to print something in color....quite a hassle.
So....i decided to take a printhead apart. I found out that inside the printhead assembly there is another ink reservoir and two flaps that hinge on the upper part of the printhead and in between them there is a little bag that inflates and deflates. The trick to the printhead is that when the bag inflates, the ink valve opens, allowing ink to "fall" or drip from the ink cartridge. This "air bag" mechanism actually works like a valve. The valve is needed because otherwise ink would keep dripping out of the printhead. When ink is used for printing, there is a vacuum created inside the printhead, which pulls air into the bag and inflates it...opening the ink valve. Because of the vacuum, ink is pulled into the printhead and the air bag deflates, closing the ink valve. Simple and smart.
Now, the good stuff.... how to make your printhead work really nice again. This is what i did to all ym printheads... (well...execpt the cyan one that i broke doing other stuff to it)...
First...how to take a printhead apart... use a small tip flat screw driver and pry between the round part that faces the front of the printer when the printhead is in the printer. This part looks like is on some kind of a rail and helps seat the printhead in the printer. This part is located underneath the printhead lift lever, when the lever is down. So when the lever is down, resting on the top of the printhead, you will have to locate the "pipe like" looking object under the lever handle. Hope you will find it...this is my best to try and explain without a picture. After the "pipe like" object is out, you will have three side retaining clips , two on the sides of the printhead and one on the opposite side to the "pipe like" object. Pry GENTLY on these one by one while SLOWLY trying to take the upper part off.
I have taken each printhead apart and slowly rinsed everything in warm water, the part with the bag and also the ink reservoir in the printhead. I had to insist a lot especially with the balck printhead that had some "dirt" in it. I also let the reservoir stay sunken in hot water for about five minutes to unclog the nozzles.
Aftwer doing the proper wash, i have filled a siringe with 5 ml of ink for the printhead in process and filled the reservoir. Do not fill the reservoir all the way to the top. 5 ml will fill the reservoir about 2/3. That is enough.
After putting ink in the reservoir place it on a thick paper towel and attach the top part of the printhead. Make sure you place the rubber seal back in place before you attach the top back to the reservoir. After that reattach the "pipe like" object and your printhead should be back to it's original shape.
The printhead will now be leaking ink and you will have to use some toilet paper folded about 10 times and put the printhead with the ink nozzles on it, to suck ink out of it and create vacuum inside. when you lift the printhead look if ink is still dripping. if it is, repeat the toilet paper procedure.
Before replacing the printhead in the printer, clean the copper contacts on the printhead and on the printer cart with some ear clinning swabs (that's what i used :) ).
I have done all this to all the printheads and my printer works like new.
Thanks for reading. Ask questions if you need to know more! :)
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| Re: THE FIRST GUIDE IN TAKING BACK YOUR HP OFFICEJET! by claudia752 (9/8/05 7:02 AM) | + / - | WOW, Can't wait to take apart the print head. I got so frustrated with trying to make the black one work that I ordered a new one. As soon as it arrives I will take apart the old one and see what I can find. I am having some trouble with the color heads because I don't print every day and they are drying out.
I thought I had beaten the problem when I dripped some ink directly into the print head, but it only worked for a short time.
Thanks for posting this information.
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| Re: Printhead by jimsimm (9/8/05 7:30 AM) | + / - | Odoboy, Great tips and greatly appreciated.
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| Re: THE FIRST GUIDE IN TAKING BACK YOUR HP OFFICEJET! by Anonymous (9/10/05 1:20 PM) | + / - | I tried the overnight soak -- didn't work -- then I took a coffee mug - filled it with hot water and put the ink head in -- did this about 2 or 3 times (each time filling with fresh water) -- it worked! The head now pumps ink and the pages look fine --- so soak the heads -- dry them off and print your stuff.
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 | Re: THE FIRST GUIDE IN TAKING BACK YOUR HP OFFICEJET! by moe (9/10/05 1:56 PM) | + / - | Taking the cartridge apart is not only difficult, but messy as well. Before you do so, perhaps you should try the simple approach to repairing clogged heads. You simply fill a shallow dish with hot water. Swish the bottom of the cartridge around in the water and then blot it dry with a paper towel.
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| Re: Re: THE FIRST GUIDE IN TAKING BACK YOUR HP OFFICEJET! by Anonymous (9/10/05 2:49 PM) | + / - | I tried the overnight soak -- didn't work -- then I took a coffee mug - filled it with hot water and put the ink head in -- did this about 2 or 3 times (each time filling with fresh water) -- it worked! The head now pumps ink and the pages look fine --- so soak the heads -- dry them off and print your stuff.
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| Re: Re: Re: THE FIRST GUIDE IN TAKING BACK YOUR HP by odoboy (9/10/05 4:22 PM) | + / - | I know that taking the printhead apart is messy because it has ink but when using refills the ink might not be that good and it might clog the nozzles from the inside....
I have tried everything and the only thing that worked was to take the printheads apart and clean them thoroughly on both sides, inside and outside.
Still, this whole treatment should be used only as a last resort, since it is complicated and also could be messy if you have not done it before. Also it is not a procedure for those not so technically inclined.
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| Re: Re: THE FIRST GUIDE IN TAKING BACK YOUR HP OFFICEJET! by Anonymous (9/10/05 6:32 PM) | + / - | Hi everybody, I tried de windex soak method but it didn't work, could you tell me how long I have to put the print heads in hot water? then, inmediately, can I use the printer?.
Nobody talks about the other ink parts of the printer, They don't need any cleaning? when I close the cover of the print heads I see only the blue and black ink cartridge contacts (the little rounded heads) pumping out ink. BUT! my print report has no black at all!!!
P.D and of course I have the "IDS Failure" in all of my printheads
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| Re: THE FIRST GUIDE IN TAKING BACK YOUR HP OFFICEJET! by peamom (9/13/05 5:51 PM) | + / - | I have an Officejet 7130 with a bad magenta printhead. Tried soaking it in hot water. So far no luck. I've had the printer for about 3 years and this is the first printhead problem. Do the prinntheads ever go bad? Maybe it truly needs to be replaced. Oh, also have to let you know that my husband took the printer to a shed at the Pop Warner football field and left it there (in locked shed overnight) for weeks to make copies of football registrations. He returned it with the printhead problem. So thinking it's a dust or clog issue, but have had the printer for quite sometime. In short, do printheads legitimately wear out, or can they always be cleaned or unclogged?
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| Re: THE FIRST GUIDE IN TAKING BACK YOUR HP OFFICEJET! by jaimejdv (9/13/05 6:23 PM) | + / - | Let me tell you how my printheads treatment is going, I boiled water in the microwave 3 times and soak the printheads in separate containers for about 5 to 10 minutes each time. The color printheads improve a lot (almost perfect) but I'm still having the IDS Failure in my report for all the printheads and no black at all. All the color printheads release ink when they were under the hot water, I got Cyan, Magenta and Yellow water but the Black got dried in the first soak. Anybody can help me please!!!?
jjdv@hotmail.com
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| Re: Re: THE FIRST GUIDE IN TAKING BACK YOUR HP OFFICEJET! by Anonymous (9/13/05 7:38 PM) | + / - | Try soaking the head in streight amonia! don't put anything in boiling water - this can rupture or cause corruption to the glue that welds the material together.
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| Re: THE FIRST GUIDE IN TAKING BACK YOUR HP OFFICEJET! by Anonymous (9/14/05 1:49 AM) | + / - | Answers to question from this beautiful thread
Q. Do printheads actually need to be replaced at some time?
A. Yes. The heaters that fire the ink drops will eventually wear out. But it can last a long time - expect 200 to 700 ml.
Black lasts longer than color, the nozzles are bigger. (pigment based ink)
A black printhead is more difficult to save. The ink is pigment based and not dye like the colours. If it dries out in the nozzles, it forms a solid residu.
If you run a printhead dry, you will ruin it.
1. air get ingested in the printhead, air bubbles will obstruct the flow of ink.
2. the heater elements are so tiny that when not submerged in ink to cool them, they will simply burn out. That is something that can not be fixed by soaking in windex for a thousand years :-)
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| Re: THE FIRST GUIDE IN TAKING BACK YOUR HP OFFICEJET! by Anonymous (9/14/05 9:59 AM) | + / - | Soaking the print heads in amonia has brought new life back to this printer. I was about ready to throw it out. There is no way I could have donated it to anyone since it was down to using just the cyan print head.
This is after having always made sure the ink supply did not run out. I was so disqusted I was never going to buy another hp printer and may still not unless I can be shown before hand they can't be this easily damaged.
The black print head is still steaking so I've gone to completely immersing it. If the last post is any indication, I might have to sping for a new black print head. I'm not going to operate on it because for 30 dollars it isn't worth that much of my time.
I didn't have to short out the battery terminals to get it to stop claiming the print heads were bad, but I did do a #9 reset. That seemed to work for me.
One tip. While I had the print head out I just left the ink tank carriage assembly (name?) open and in the center of the printer. After about 5 minutes it decided to go ahead and store them to the right as it usually does, but the print head door was still open. It began thrashing trying to get that assembly in there, gears were grinding, I figured it was ruined. Now why in the heck it does this I have no idea! The print heads weren't even in it! Fortunately it doesn't seem to have damaged anything at least in the immediate term.
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| Re: THE FIRST GUIDE IN TAKING BACK YOUR HP OFFICEJET! by peamom (9/14/05 3:16 PM) | + / - | OK, soaked the magenta printhead in boiled water -- no help, soaked in ammonia for 2 hours -- no help. I get magenta water each time. Still get bad printhead error. Does anyone know what the firmware printhead error patch is at
http://h10025.www1.hp.com
Should I create a restore point, download this and try it, and if not restore? Or should I just go buy a new magenta printhead?
Thanks,
peamom
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| Re: THE FIRST GUIDE IN TAKING BACK YOUR HP OFFICEJET! by claudia752 (9/14/05 7:31 PM) | + / - | When I had the printer open and the print head out, the machine tried to move the carriage to the right also. Makes a lot of noise. Then up came a message that said your print head is stalled. This message is on the computer screen. I almost panicked because this stalled message had haunted me for months and months. I was afraid it was backkkkkkk. And of course I couldn't remember what voodoo finally made it go away the first time. But all was well as soon as I closed the lid.
I have given up on being able to restore the print heads. I have purchased a black one and now a red one. I was so frustrated that I just decided that 30.00 wasn't worth my sanity.
I was able to find a web site that sold them for 30.10 each with free shipping. FYI databazaar.com I have received the black one already and it is a new hp print head.
Claudia
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| Re: THE FIRST GUIDE IN TAKING BACK YOUR HP OFFICEJET! by John DFW (9/18/05 10:20 AM) | +1 + / - | This is all excellent information and used it to get my d135 working again... for a while. I turned off the black and color monitoring and that solved my IDS failure error messages.
Now I'm getting "Supply expired. Printing stopped. Replace black ink cartridge. Press ENTER to continue." and another message for the color cart after pressing enter... so when I hit enter twice to get past these two messages, the printer just sits there... and when I submit another job the two messages come right back up, so I can't print anymore... I fill up my cartridges regularly and made sure there is ink... I've done google searches on this error and can't find anything on it... anyone else have this problem? Have a fix?
Thanks!
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| Re: Re: Re: Re: THE FIRST GUIDE IN TAKING BACK YOUR HP OFF by Anonymous (9/18/05 3:15 PM) | + / - | I have some non working D135 &D145 printers lying around. Tell me how to get to the bulb and I'll send you one.
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| Re: Re: THE FIRST GUIDE IN TAKING BACK YOUR HP OFFICEJET! by Anonymous (9/18/05 5:55 PM) | +1 + / - | Just now I fixed that SUPPLY EXPIRED problem - I did the battery take out method on page one of this post - been messing with it for two days - also I kept some old black printheads and am trying the windex soak - see about about two posts the guy mentions he did a number 9 reset - to reset a d135 unplug it hold down 9 and plug it after it says initializing release number 9 - I called HP once and they also had me do this using 6 and 7 I dont know ehat they do but its worth a try -
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| Re: Re: THE FIRST GUIDE IN TAKING BACK YOUR HP OFFICEJET! by Anonymous (9/18/05 6:03 PM) | +1 + / - | Pointers for battery take out
Read all of the posts above one guy broke off the clip that holds the battery in
1. I didnt pull out the pins on the hinges I undid the whole hinge at the bottom - there are clips on either side pull them apart - see above posts DO NOT LET THE LID AND SCANNER LID GO COMPLETELY BACK !!!!!!
2. I took and old cheap bendable dinner fork and bent backwards all of the tines except one (when you stick this in to the battery you dont want the tines to hit the IC board where the battery is )
on the tine that I left in place I put a 90 degree bend at the end about 3/16' long
3. take a sharp knife and carefully from the bottom of the battery raise the battery a little bit leaving it in its socket raise up about 1/4 inch
4. use needle nose pliers to get hold of the battery and pull it out - see directions at the first of this post
5. i used the one tine on the fork to hook and slightly pull out
the clip that holds the battery in - i think put the battery under the clip and pushed it into the socket
DO NOT BREAK OFF THE CLIP !!!!!!!!
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| Re: THE FIRST GUIDE IN TAKING BACK YOUR HP OFFICEJET! by Anonymous (9/25/05 6:50 AM) | + / - | I tried to do a reset using 6+7 as mentioned above to see what would happen. The machine did its self test then powered up on its own. I saw several things go by on the LCD screen, among which was to clear the Fax Number list. Fortunately I don't have any fax numbers stored in the printer.
I always thought the reset number were just:
#3 reset
#6 Semi-full reset
#9 Full reset
As is posted in http://www.fixyourownprinter.com/forums/inkjet/16879
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| Re: THE FIRST GUIDE IN TAKING BACK YOUR HP OFFICEJET! by Anonymous (9/25/05 7:15 AM) | + / - | On inkjet replacement kits for the d135 they keep saying you must fill the cartridges while they are in the printer!
Why in the world would you have to do this? I've just order a refill kit and have no intention of doing it this way.
I've kept the last old cartridges and plan on swapping them with the ones in the printer. I don't see how this can break anything.
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| Re: Re: THE FIRST GUIDE IN TAKING BACK YOUR HP OFFICEJET! by jimsimm (9/25/05 2:31 PM) | + / - | The refill kit that I got, and the one I've used for two years, says to remove the carts and turn them upside down and drip the ink into the outlet. That's what I've been doing and it's easy and works fine.
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| Re: THE FIRST GUIDE IN TAKING BACK YOUR HP OFFICEJET! by Anonymous (9/25/05 3:58 PM) | + / - | I will do that as well. Since its just a sponge inside it shouldn't matter how it gets filled, but I will fill them slowly so the air has time to come out.
Swapping the cartridges should reset the print level indicator every time. I will verify that once I start doing it.
I am the one above who tried to soak the black print head entirely in amonia. I would not recommend total immersion. The printer no longer prints black at all, yet does not claim the print head is bad.
Instead it appears to use color ink to simulate black somehow but it isn't very good. Another oddity is that it won't print the alignment page anymore, it just spits out a blank sheet of paper.
I have a new black print head coming and hope that will resolve some of this.
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| Re: THE FIRST GUIDE IN TAKING BACK YOUR HP OFFICEJET! by Anonymous (9/26/05 8:36 PM) | + / - | Got the old black print head working with another mild soak, and printing a black primer sheet. (I wish they had primer sheets that just printed the top 2 inches of the page, that seems to be sufficient). But every day I had to prime it again as the black was washed out for the first few lines.
The new black print head arrived and I installed that one and it works great. No need to print primer sheets with this one.
The alignment page now prints and the colors are printed sharply. The color print head are still working like new after having done the 1/2 inch amonia soak with them. What a great tip this was. My printer now works like brand new.
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| Re: THE FIRST GUIDE IN TAKING BACK YOUR HP OFFICEJ by tankful (10/1/05 12:31 PM) | + / - | First thanks Dexfurax for taking the time to post sustinct instructions.
I get my ink from these folks:
http://www.padiscountink.com/aboutink.asp
These folks sell a replacement chips that are resettable when you refill them.
www.thinktankuk.com
http://thinktankuk.com/
email from oct 2004.
Many thanks for your enquiry. We would quote these at £3.15 each for the chips and £24 for the resetter. This is about $5.70 and $43. This includes shipping by air mail.
If you would like to go ahead with the chips, I can accept most credit cards, but not Amex. You can either reply to this email with your card details, or if you would prefer, fax them to +44 1673 862176. ----Dave
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| Re: Printhead by Anonymous (10/4/05 7:02 PM) | + / - | I've been pondering a full scale old fasioned indian uprising against HP for the crappy way they try to hoodwink the consumer. I have a D145 with dry print heads and was about to tear into them when I read your post. Thanks, mucho gracias odoboy! If there's one thing I've learned from the web it's that there are pleanty of people out there like me who won't be bullied by greedy manufacturers! It's gratifying to see others digging in on the front lines! Here's two arrows tipped with flint and HP ink (red) on the ends. Paint your face and saddle up!
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| Re: THE FIRST GUIDE IN TAKING BACK YOUR HP OFFICEJET! by torchandregdoc  (10/5/05 2:17 PM) | + / - | I read your write up on how to clean print heads on a d135. I get a "printhead bad" screen when I try to print. Is that an IDS error message. After I put a new cart. in it will print one or two pages, and then slowly go to blank. New cart., same thing. When I pull out the printhead, do I need to keep the cart. covered or put something over the port to prevent drying of the cart. . You said to do a *3*5 test page. I'm an idiot , how. I input *3*5 and get nothing. Thanks for any help that you can provide.
Jim
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| Re: THE FIRST GUIDE IN TAKING BACK YOUR HP OFFICEJET! by Ron_din (10/7/05 1:35 AM) | + / - | In the instructions is mentioned to remove the battery! The easier method is put a business card between the battery and the + clip. The thin card can be easy installed and removed!
I’m trying at the moment the instruction socking the printer heads in 10% ammoniac 90% water to unclothe them. With full anticipation wait on the result! We should be grateful to HP delivering this kind of crap printer to the market. Give you a new hobby:(
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| Re: Re: THE FIRST GUIDE IN TAKING BACK YOUR HP OFFICEJET! by claudia752 (10/7/05 10:05 AM) | + / - | Jim,
First you are NOT an idiot. I have no clue what a *3*5 test page is either so I just use the align printhead page (found under maintenance). After you soak the printhead and reinstall you should realign the printheads anyway.
As for the cartridge drying out, if you are only going to soak the printhead for a short time, the cartridge will be fine. I just close up the printhead home, because if you don't the printer will automatically try to return the ink/printhead assembly to it's resting position and will make a HORRIBLE noise trying to do this. (I soaked a printhead over night and the cartridge did just great)
I have tried most of the suggestions on this board and had only temporary luck. If your colors are working fine, DO NOT soak them to improve the flow. When you print the alignment sheet you will be able to tell if the colors are OK by checking the square boxes of color that print. If they are square with sharp edges and highly colored your print head is OK. If it is starting to go bad you will see part of the square is less intense and the edges will be blurry. (each color prints seperately on the edge of the paper)
Good luck and if you have further questions feel free to post again.
Claudia
Any day above ground is a good day!
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| Re: THE FIRST GUIDE IN TAKING BACK YOUR HP OFFICEJET! by Don Jones (10/16/05 9:58 AM) | + / - | I have a 7130xi with poor printing. I've owned it about two years. Now, I am getting the "replace print head" message for two colors, and the other two colors are showing some of the same signs of failure - with lines in the printed blocks during the "print test page" (I suspect they will also need replacing soon). I have recently purchased two spare (new) black and color cartridges for my printer - quite an investiment!
My question is this - with printers costing less and less these days, is it a wise decision to invest in four new printheads - for a two year old printer, or better to buy a new printer?
Also, is there a recommended way to repair the printheads? Or, is it best to avoid this?
Thanks
Don
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| Re: THE FIRST GUIDE IN TAKING BACK YOUR HP OFFICEJET! by Stephen (edited 10/16/05 10:22 AM) | + / - | You may be able to recover a clogged print head by swishing the tip in a saucer with a very small amount of warm water, then gently wiping it on a wet paper towel, be careful, the nozzles are delicate.
Consider why printers are getting cheaper and cheaper, it's not because they are making them better and better.
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| Re: Re: THE FIRST GUIDE IN TAKING BACK YOUR HP OFFICEJET! by jimsimm (10/16/05 12:09 PM) | + / - | "Consider why printers are getting cheaper and cheaper, it's not because they are making them better and better."
-- that may be true, or may not be, but the fact remains, nothing could be made as poorly as this HP D135 and I'm so turned off by HP now that I wouldn't buy any HP printer. I'd buy a new printer rather than one that is going to have common printhead failures and very expensive ink cartridges. I recently upgraded to a new Epson printer that takes generic ink cartridges that you can buy for about $1.50 each! I got this $150 printer after coupon and rebate at Staples for less than $40! Good bye $30 HP Cartridges!
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| Re: THE FIRST GUIDE IN TAKING BACK YOUR HP OFFICEJET! by jlama (10/17/05 11:53 AM) | + / - | Thanks for your great tip. It worked perfectly and did not even take 20 minutes to do.
Keep up the good work. It is amazing how big companies will rip off the public and it can be corrected simply.
I would think it would be illegal for companies to get away with this type of stuff.
Thanks Again!
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| Re: THE FIRST GUIDE IN TAKING BACK YOUR HP OFFICEJET! by tvcto (10/21/05 7:00 AM) | +1 + / - | Nice bit of work. Had problems on an HP7110 with clogged Magenta printhead. Tried HP's online solution for "IDS Error": http://h10025.www1.hp.com .....no luck. They don't even consider the possibility that the printhead may be clogged.
This advice worked perfectly.
Thanks
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| Re: Re: Re: THE FIRST GUIDE IN TAKING BACK YOUR HP OFFICEJET! by Anonymous (10/22/05 12:15 AM) | + / - | jimsimm:
Thank you for your comment about switching to Epson printers. I am very interested in switching too. Which printer were you refering to that uses generic printer cartridges for around $1.50? The model number woudl be helpful.
Don
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| Re: Printhead by LowTech Industries (10/29/05 4:38 AM) | + / - | In Referance to odoboys post about taking apart the printhead.
This was very usefull. I found a Deskjet d135 at a local goodwillfor 25$, I freqently find good printers and parts there. I had no color ink cartrige. I orderered one thru inkquik.com for 13.99 plus 4$ shipping. One installed i was recieving magenta head errors. I tried the over night soak to no avail. I figured i was going to have to buy a new one anyhow, so i followed odoboy's advice. Taking those printheads apart is a little tricky, however after getting it apart and running hot water thru it for about 30 mins each, lettting it dry for 30 mins, refilling with ink, and putting it back together I am very pleased to say that i no longer have any print head errors and the print quality is 100%.
Upon further inspection i did knowtice the cyan print head was very streaky. Again no help with the overnight soak. However I Ran the printhead under hot water for about 20 mins, Using a light stream of hot water directly on the screen mesh on top of the print head and shaking it every now and then. I knowticed that the ink was starting to bleed out very well after about 5 mins. I dryed up the Printhead, placed it back into the printer and poof.. no more streaks..
Thanks to everyone in this thread Saved me alot of $$$ , By the way Inkquick.com also sells the printheads for about 30$ each.
Christopher L. Gibson
Lowtech Industries
www.lt-ind.com
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| Re: THE FIRST GUIDE IN TAKING BACK YOUR HP OFFICEJET! by ah (10/29/05 1:52 PM) | + / - | odoboy's post worked an absolute treat on several of our printer's too -- despite suggestions from 'real techs' too. well done that man!
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| Re: Re: Re: Re: THE FIRST GUIDE IN TAKING BACK YOUR HP OFFICEJET! by jimsimm (10/31/05 6:52 AM) | + / - | Don asked specifics about which epson printer I have that uses really cheap ink carts. I've had a CX3200 and a cx5400 both Epsons, both great machines in my opinion (no fax though) I also have now a canon multi-pass 100 -- or something like that, I can't recall the exact name. That one also takes ink carts that cost about $1.00 at www.megatoners.com -- the epson ink carts are currently $2 to $2.25 but they often have them on sale for $1.50 or less at megatoners. Keep an eye on the hot deals forums for good deals on inkjet printers. They usually involve coupons and rebates and sometimes price matching but it is not uncommon to get a decent printer for FREE after rebates and coupons or at least you can easily get one for under $40 or so with a little work. Try this link for inkjet printer deals: http://www.fatwallet.com/forums/categories.php?catid=18 then check megatoners for the prices of ink once you find a good deal on a printer. I upgrade to a new printer AT LEAST once a year when I see a good free, or nearly free printer deal. My D135 I bought NEW for about $90 after rebates at Staples. This was a few years ago when they were going for about $400 if I recall. I only keep it around cause I use the fax often although that is going on me no so I may be trashing this one.
Good luck.
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| Re: THE FIRST GUIDE IN TAKING BACK YOUR HP OFFICEJET! by jimsimm (10/31/05 12:14 PM) | + / - | Okay, here's an example of a good deal on a printer that takes carts that cost about $2.25 each. Epson R420 photoprinter for about $37 after rebates, gift cards, coupons etc. It's a little work but you get a $180 printer pretty cheaply: http://www.fatwallet.com/t/18/536976/
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| Re: THE FIRST GUIDE IN TAKING BACK YOUR HP OFFICEJET! by Don Jones (11/1/05 9:07 AM) | + / - | jimsimm:
Thanks for the Epson printer info. I am really looking for a 4-in-1, or All in One, COLOR printer. Since I already invested in the 7130XI two years ago, and now am faced with the "replace print heads" issue, can you lead me in a better direction for a replacement?
Thanks
Don
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| hp office jet d135 scan and copies wrong colors by rwyoung (12/5/05 9:03 AM) | + / - | I have a d135 office jet. It prints in color okay but if I do a color copy of a black & white page or color page, the background is all yellow and any color objects look wrong. The same think happens even if scanned into word or paint. Nothing to do with the ink when scanned so it is not a ink problem.
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| Re: hp office jet d135 scan and copies wrong color by odoboy (12/5/05 6:13 PM) | + / - | There must be something wrong with the optical pick-up device in the scanner, from what i can think of.
Don't really know what to recommend except taking the scanner apart and looking for anything unusual in that pick-up device.
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| Re: THE FIRST GUIDE IN TAKING BACK YOUR HP OFFICEJET! by torchandregdoc (edited 12/5/05 6:24 PM) | + / - | I have a simialar problem with my d135 as rwyoung. I just replaced the black printhead a few weeks ago and now when I print pics it makes cerain black elements of the pic look like gold flake. The only time it does this is if there is something nearly black in the pic and that part of the pic looks like the gold flake.
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| Re: THE FIRST GUIDE IN TAKING BACK YOUR HP OFFICEJ by odoboy (12/7/05 11:50 AM) | + / - | Try and do a head alignment. It might help. The bad thing is that my printer initially was doing the alignment wrong and i ended up replacing the whole mechanism with a refurbished one and no problems since then.
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| Re: THE FIRST GUIDE IN TAKING BACK YOUR HP OFFICEJ by maidanet (12/8/05 9:40 AM) | + / - | Thanks for this thread. I was able to get the magenta working again after following instructions. in fact, I didn't have to soak it, just used a q tip with hot water to clean off all contacts/screens
However, I am still having trouble with the yellow. I have had the Bad Printhead. Replace Yellow (Circle) Printhead message.
I have cleaned all contacts/screens. I bought a new color cartridge and a new yellow printhead. Absolutely no yellow ink comes out at all.
A couple of times, yellow ink came out for one pass of the printer, and nothing after that. Now no yellow ink comes out at all.
The printer works great for black and white. We have a feeder for multipage copies. I hate that I can't get this to work. It's been my obsession for some time now :( We can't afford a new printer.
Any ideas?
Thanks in advance!
Maida
www.thehealthymom.com
www.maida.net
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| Re: THE FIRST GUIDE IN TAKING BACK YOUR HP OFFICEJ by odoboy (12/9/05 8:49 PM) | + / - | If you have replaced the yellow printhead then even without ink in the reservoir it should print yellow because the printhead contains enough ink to print for quite a while (i think 5ml).
So your problem is definately printhead/printhead cart related.
Just a shot in the dark....make sure you have cleaned the contacts in the cart and on the yellow cartridge because the yellow ink is almost invisible. Keep cleaning until the q-tip comes out clean.
Also, don't be insulted... but i've seen this happen to skilled people...make sure the protective plastic foil is off the printhead. I assume it's off since the printer recognizes the printhead but i've said it just to make sure...sometimes when we worry about complicated things we forget the basic ones.
Now, thinking about it a little more....you are saying you got SOME yellow ink out...when was this? after you put the new printhead in?
If so, then the ink passage from the ink reservoir is clogged and traps vacuum in the printhead instead of pulling ink, causing what you are describing.
If that is the case, you will have to take the yellow printhead out, put the latch back and remove the color ink reservoir. Locate the yellow drain pipe from the reservoir...there are only three of them and you can find out which is which.
Try and clean the surface of that and also put a drop of water right above the hole going through the tube and let it sit. Watch if ti starts going through. If it's not you can let it sit for a while to unclog the pipe. Here, pretty much, you have to use your common sense for uncloging a tiny pipe clogged with ink. Should not be too hard. You might want to put some folded paper towel instead of the yellow printhead, to trap the waer/ink drops coming out of the tube.
Also, VERY IMPORTANT, when you get the cartridges cart in the middle, UNPLUG THE PRINTER!! The stupid design in these makes them park the cart without checking anything and if your cart is open, bad things might happen.
Kepp us posted with the results and we'll go from there.
Odoboy.
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| Re: THE FIRST GUIDE IN TAKING BACK YOUR HP OFFICEJ by maidanet (edited 12/10/05 8:17 AM) | + / - | Thanks for the reply!!! I appreciate you taking the time to reply. I found a lot of the things you mentioned by spending way too much time on it yesterday morning.
Here's where we are now.
I unplugged the machine and did a partial reset with 6#
When the machine came back on, I got a "Bad Printhead. Replace Magenta Printhead" message
And sure enough, the magenta won't print again.
More cleaning, unplugging and resetting, and the Bad Printhead message is gone. Got the magenta to come out, but only in streaks. I tried aligned and cleaned printheads with the printer software. Tried again...printing a block of solid 100% magenta (according to photoshop)
I printed three pages of magenta and got streaks. Less and less magenta in each print.
See http://www.maida.net/clients/troubleshoot/d135printer.html for pictures of the printouts.
That's where I left it yesterday.
I'm not sure if I understand where the color ink reservoir and subsequently the drain pipe for each color would be. If I take the printhead out of the cart, there is just empty space beneath it.
We moved the color printer to our store yesterday (doesn't need color printing very often), so I don't have access to it right now, otherwise, I would take a digital picture to try and clarify. I'll see if I can get to the store this weekend and take photos.
Thanks again in advance for any advice on how to proceed.
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| Re: Re: THE FIRST GUIDE IN TAKING BACK YOUR HP OFF by odoboy (12/10/05 1:10 PM) | + / - | Ok...
What you are experiencing seems like clogged nozzles coupled maybe with the lack of ink in the printhead. You can search for one of my earlier posts on this thread on how to take the printhead apart, clean it and refill it with ink. If you do that, it will work for sure.
The pipe that i am talking about is going from the bottom of the ink reservoir (the ink cartridge) to the top of the printhead. The pipe is a part of the assembly that you lift to get the printhead out.
Keep us posted.
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| Re: THE FIRST GUIDE IN TAKING BACK YOUR HP OFFICEJET! by hmeyer (12/12/05 6:35 AM) | +1 + / - | Great Forum!
I have a D155Xi with what I suspect might be "the dreaded scanner error", mentioned on this forum.
Only couldn't find a link about what (if anything?) to do about it, or an explanation about what causes it?
In the beginnig I could just switch on/off a few times to get it going, but now it is completely stuck at this scanner error, and will do nothing.
I've been on Live support with HP, and done a number of tests and resets to no avail, and there is no support (or repair possibility) here in DK for this 1100$ (2 years ago here!)All in One that has done 1200 prints.
I will certainly need to do the cleaning procedures described here, if I can get it running again, since it has been out of use for 6 months now.
I had it apart once to see if I could see why it did not work, but did not know what to look for, and consequently found nothing suspect.
Really need to know if there is anything to do, so I can either use it or throw it away.
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| Re: THE FIRST GUIDE IN TAKING BACK YOUR HP OFFICEJET! by Anonymous (12/17/05 6:03 PM) | + / - | Thanks Dexfurax for this Thread. I just got an expired cartridge to work that i won on Ebay after reading this thread i bid and it worked. The printhead cleaning is very good too, I will look into it but for now i just wiped my black printhead with a q-tip soaked in alcohol and bam prints clearly now. I didnt expect soo much trouble with this Hp printer though i have a 7130 officejet, ended up costing like 300 after haveing to buy the 4 printheads and inkz... Thanks for looking out Dex
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