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 | Epson C82 Print Head Assembly by Doug (1/15/05 10:13 AM) reply | + / - | On the right hand side of an Epson C82 Print Head assembly there is a little adjustable arm that locks into a row of notches. You can move it front to back and lock it into a different positon. Just wondering what it was for since I think I moved it. Thanks.
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 | Re: Epson C82 Print Head Assembly by Wes  (1/15/05 10:43 AM) reply | + / - | That's a angle adjustment.
Wes.
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| Re: Re: Epson C82 Print Head Assembly by Doug (1/15/05 11:56 AM) reply | + / - | Thanks Wes. What I was originally frustrated with was the print head clogging that would not clear up using the Epson utility. I found the cleaning kit here and will need to try that. That's when I got into the, Gee wonder what this does, state of mind. I put it back about mid range where there seems to be a marker dot. Guess that's about the best I can do at home?
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| Re: Epson C82 Print Head Assembly by Wes (1/15/05 5:55 PM) reply | + / - | There is a ink purge tube on the cap assembly that may have disconnected. If that tube is disconnected then the printer will not print and acts like a print head clog. Once the tube is reattached and secured in place (I use silicone sealiant and apply a small dab with a q-tip) You just run a print head cleaning and most of the time the problem is solved but you will usually will still need the cleaning solution to clean the print head further. Just order the plus kit.
For info on the ink purge tube and how to get the housing off of the printer try these links. http://inkjetprinterhelp.us/c821.html and http://inkjetprinterhelp.us/duraink.html
To help reduce clogs in the future you should print a small picture once every two weeks to keep the print head clear. With older printers they could sit longer without any real clogging problems but the dure brite inks are much tougher the clear and do clog faster.
I hope this helps,
Wes.
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| Re: Re: Epson C82 Print Head Assembly by Anonymous (1/16/05 5:46 AM) reply | + / - | Well sonufagun. That's exactly what is wrong. I would've never seen that. Thanks. I'll work on that ASAP. By the way, are you aware of any instructions that would describe how I could be sure I got that angle adjustment reset correctly?
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 | Re: Epson C82 Print Head Assembly by Wes (1/16/05 8:14 AM) reply | + / - | You would need the service manual and adjustment program to really make the adjustment correctly. But print out a bunch of lines and see if thet match up with each other. If a set of lines is off then you need to adjust the angle.
The service shows what a good adjustment is and what a printout that need the adjustment will look like.
I hope this helps,
Wes.
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 | Re: Epson C82 Print Head Assembly by Doug (1/16/05 10:30 AM) reply | + / - | Well, thanks for all your help, Wes. I think I know what to do now. Have a good day. Doug
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| Re: Epson C82 Print Head Assembly by Wes (1/16/05 10:39 AM) reply | + / - | You are welcome.
I hope it helped,
Wes.
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| Re: Epson C82 Print Head Assembly by Doug (1/22/05 8:01 AM) reply | + / - | For historical purposes, in case anyone is searching the forum with this problem, I thought I'd update. Following the links Wes provided, I removed the upper cover, slide back that ink system assembly and held that in place with a piece of tape. You then need some long, thin tweezers and a lot of patience, but ultimately you can get the tube back over the fitting. (You will still get plenty of ink on your fingers.) I also used Wes's idea of silicon sealant to try to keep it on. Only one head cleaning run and all nozzles were working again.
I can't really see with the naked eye a difference when adjusting the angle adjustment. I'd be grateful if anyone who has a C82 could let me know where their's is set or had a picture showing where one is set. Good Day.
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| Re: Epson C82 Print Head Assembly by Wes (1/22/05 8:54 AM) reply | + / - | There is not a set adjustment for the angle. The way it works is when you print a adjustment page there are lots of lines that need to match up. So say your printer has 3 rows that match up but the 4th does not then you would move the adjustment. A very crude example is below. But there are lots of these lines and you need a magnifying glass to reallty see if they are off or not. If you don't see any defects if your print outs then I would not worry about it.
Good test.
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I hope this helps,
Wes.
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 | Re: Re: Epson C82 Print Head Assembly by Anonymous (1/25/05 8:53 PM) reply | + / - | We must be in a parallel universe, Doug. Piece of tape. Tweezers. Lots of ink on the fingers. Yep. That's exactly what's happening here right now. But the patience part gave out after about 45 minutes. That little hose buried deep in the bowels of the CX3200 is slippery as an eel! Does it really slip back onto that black tube? I really don't want to send this thing back to Epson when I can see what's wrong.
I'll keep trying tomorrow. By the way, rubbing alcohol doesn't seem to clean this ink off my fingers. What solvent do you use?
Thanks for your forum. Glad to know somebody else has this problem. (And I thought Epson was a great printer. They should issue a recall.)
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| Re: Epson C82 Print Head Assembly by Doug (1/26/05 5:33 AM) reply | + / - | With the C82, the Durabright ink came off with liquid hand cleaner and water. Maybe your printer uses dye-based inks. I'm not sure.
Yep, the hose is slippery...and since I was aggravated at Epson I wasn’t all that gentle with the hose. The printer was out of warranty and repair costs would probably exceed replacement costs.
It took a bit of stretching to get the clear hose aligned with the fitting so it would slip back over it. Sort of had to pull it up towards me and then bend it to the right while bending the black hose and the fitting towards the left so they would line up more or less horizontally. I was concerned about pulling it off the other end, but had resolved to replace the printer if I made it any worse. At one point, the fitting popped out of the black hose and I had to stick it back in, too. Actually the tool I used on the clear hose was a pair of those locking forceps. Mostly, I was kind of surprised when it went back on.
I wonder if this is a common arrangement with Epson printers. We got my parents a system with a C86 for Christmas. They live in another state so I won’t be able to look inside that printer for a while to see if it may suffer from the same problem down the road.
Well good luck. I wonder how Canon does it?
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| Re: Epson C82 Print Head Assembly by RPM (3/3/05 7:14 AM) reply | + / - | Joy..oh joy! If anyone is considering this undertaking of trying to fit the hose back on, let me save you the trouble. It is a nightmare! Considering the cost of the C82 vs. the frustrastion level of this operation..no brainer. Buy a new printer and pitch this one off the highest roof you can find. Make some popcorn and invite friends.
I feel better now.. off to buy a new (non-Epson) printer. Cheers!
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| Re: Epson C82 Print Head Assembly by Denny Conway (3/3/05 9:47 AM) reply | + / - | RPM: Just remember that any make of printer, that sells for under $100, is considered to be a disposable printer, in the printer industry. Its even starting to look like any printer under $150 is also starting to look more like a disposable printer. I wish you well with your new printer...Denny Conway
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 | Re: Epson C82 Print Head Assembly by RPM (3/4/05 6:31 AM) reply | + / - | Denny - I appreciate your well wishes, and I concur that printers under the 200 dollar range aren't made to last forever. My discontent is two-fold. The "tube slippage issue" certainly appears to be a design flaw, as so many people are having the problem. Epson has discontinued the C82, but they haven't discontinued selling the $75 ink carts. Not to mention that no other printer they make can use the "brand new" carts that I just bought.
My advice to anyone who cares.. do your research (boards like these are a great place to look as there are actual USERS not being paid to say nice things).
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| Re: Epson C82 Print Head Assembly by gezebo (3/24/05 10:22 AM) reply | + / - | I believe the tube is being blown off by the backpressure created as the print head purges ink to clean itself during the cleaning cycle. Which is caused by a complete ink blockage in the drainage tube.
i believe this becuase I opened my C82 up and did and overhaul cleaning job.
I found the tube is connected to a smaller tube that drains into a basin under the printer. the smaller tube was completely blocked off. Not just a clogged segment, but there was also a blob of dried ink the size of a Chipotle side order of sour cream blocking the end of the tube. This blockage then caused the tube to come off, and that allowed air into the tube, drying the ink in there and causing further blockage.**Funny thing; when the other end connects to the smaller tube, there is a clamp.**
More to come.
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| Re: Epson C82 Print Head Assembly by gezebo (3/24/05 10:58 AM) reply | + / - |
WOW.. just wanted to give my take:) I just recently had a major clogg up the wazzoo. There were some output, but not
usable. i took out the whole print head and cleaned every part of it(care not to get anything on the curciut boards)
Output went from little to Nothing.
Then i found this page. Confirming again that plugging the hose back up is as hard as doing open heart surgery.
Here are some tips i would like to share.
1. Opening the printer makes it easier to reconnect the tube.
2. See linked image for more help with opening printer.
3. Cleaning out the clear tube before reconnecting it helps print better.(I used a suringe and pump windex through it. in both directions; push and pull but do all the pushing or pulling 1st. Work it till your cleaning fliuds easily flow, be ready to get sprayed if you're not carefull)
4. there is a second smaller tube that connects to this tube. this one leads into the bottom of the printer.(ink waste septic tank) funny thing is that this one has a clamp. Go figure epson? :S >but to do this you need to take it out.. and that means you need to take out 4 more screw and the clip on panel on the back above the plug, lift the whole print assembly body and remove the foam covers(for the well).
5. I used a small needle nose plier instead of tweezers.
6. Use something to pull the spout towards the tube can make it easier.
7. Most helpful tip? I used a q-tip to hold the cart open. stick it between the metal and plastic bracket of the frame, and have the end hold the cart(hard to explain, but if you look in there, you'll find a nice place to wedge something there to hold the cart.
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To all those C82 owners who don't want to shell out another 100 bucks for a new printer. Here is how to take apart your printer.
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Disassembly Directions:
You will have 4 screws to unscrew, and 5 clips to unclip. then you will be able to take the silver top off the grey bottom. This will make it much easier to reattatch the hose.
lets see if my "paint" art can clarify this.
-Blue circles are locations of the screws
-red circles are locations of where the body clips together.
-arrows denote direction of the screw.
-no arrows mean screw is pointing down into the printer.
-blue lines tubes.
-green lines are Wires
-Purple lines are ribbon cables.
View from the top to take off the top.
1. take off the paper tray support.
2. Take off the cartridge door/cover.
3. Run the head cleaning cycle to onluck the print head, (so it's not all the way to the right)
4. Unplug Printer.
5. Move print head to be in the middle.
6. Unscrew screws.
7. unclip clips and slide silver top off.(make sure you remove the power button panel before you pull the top off as the power button panel is connected to a ribbon cable that is taped to the bottom part of the printer.) panel can be removed by pressing in the clips located on the long sides of the board.
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If you want to take the smaller hose out for cleaning.. You will need to take out 4 more screws and the small plastic clip-on plate above the plug in the back.
refer to ascii art below.
The clear tube goes under the printhead dock and wraps to the front of the printer where it connects to a smaller tube that leads under the printer.
I didn't disconnect any ribbon cables but simply lifted the printer assembly up and set it on the back of the printer while i worked(assembly will be angled as ribbon cables keep one side down)remove the foam on the small tube, and pull the foam that covers the end of the tube.
pull out the small tube, clean.
Reinstall printer in reverse order.
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| Re: Epson C82 Print Head Assembly by photastic (3/31/05 8:21 PM) reply | + / - | Amazing, I just purchased an ink cartridge kit (a $60 investment) and my heart sunk when it acted the same as before... with absolutely nothing printing out. My father had given me the C82 because he thought it was just as well to invest into another printer rather than the ink. I am an epson printer fan, and the owner of a 2200. I wanted to use the C82 for document printing, thus leaving the 2200 for full time picture printing, as I am a photographer. After reading the accounts on this page, I was sure that I would find the tube disconnected, and lo and behold, it was.
Thanks to all (especially gazebo(nice diagram))for posting the fixes for this problem. Had I not found this page, most likely the C82 would have been making it's final journey to the city landfill along with my $60 ink investment.
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| Re: Re: Epson C82 Print Head Assembly by Anonymous (4/19/05 2:05 AM) reply | + / - | Gazebo,
Your directions are excellent, but after doing all that, my printer won't turn back on. Nothing happens and I did not disconnect anything other than your diagram. Any ideas?
ringo59
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| Re: Epson C82 Print Head Assembly by newuser (edited 4/19/05 12:37 PM) reply | + / - | Since you have disassembled the printer, the white flat cable of the printer power board (which holds the three buttons in the front panel) may have become disconnected, you should check it carefully.
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| Re: Re: Epson C82 Print Head Assembly by Anonymous (4/20/05 8:18 AM) reply | + / - | Never mind. I tore it apart again and discovered a flat white cable near the back left side had come out. It just slides into the connector, nothing but friction holding in it there. Another great Epson engineering stunt!
After all that (twice), it does work now and the loose tube was the problem. Thanks to all the threads above, esp. gazebo.
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| Re: Epson C82 Print Head Assembly by msn (4/21/05 7:51 PM) reply | + / - |
I'm having the same problem everyone on this message board is having with their C82 printer. I opened my C82 up and sure enough the tube was disconnected. I connected it back up and cleaned out all the tubes and ink reservoir---BUT---I still cannot get it to print ink of any color. I also made sure the white strips were connected. The only thing different is---I have two screws that I don't know where they belong !!!
The printer seems to go through the motion of printing a document when I try to print. All of the cartridges have been replaced and no lights are flashing. I am puzzeled.
Does anyone have any suggestions short of throwing the thing out the window ????
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| Re: Epson C82 Print Head Assembly by Denny Conway (4/25/05 10:36 AM) reply | + / - | msn: Try running a nozzle test directly from your computer system and see if any of the nozzles are not actually firing or printing. If so, try running sets of the "Print Head Cleaning Cycles" & "Nozzle Tests", to see if that helps to get those nozzles to open up again and start printing again. You must run a nozzle test after every cleaning cycle ran, because your printer uses the nozzle test as a point of reference for the next cleaning cycle that is ran. If after running up to 6 sets of those cleaning tests and nozzle tests, you still have the same problem, then its always possible that your printer may have an actual failing print cartridge, or even an actual hardware/parts problem, such as a failing print head assembly. If installing a new-epson ink cartridge does not help, then its always possible that your printer may have a clogged print head assembly, especially if you were actually using non-epson ink cartridges [generic or third-party cartridges]. You might want to try using the "Epson Stylus Head Cleaning Solution", available through fixyourownprinter.com, at http://www.fixyourownprinter.com/kits/epson , but it will only help, if there is an actual clogged print head assembly. When it opens, click-on epson stylus head cleaning solution thats listed for your particular printer. The epson solution sells for around $10.00 plus shipping. It includes a syringe and some epson print head cleaning solution, which is designed to dissolve most clogs, especially if you were using epson inks. This is the same chemical used by epson in their service department. You can try it if you want to and see if you can get the print head nozzles to open up again, but that will only help if they are actually clogged. It was basically designed by epson company for use on their older models of ink jet printers, but people have been using it on the newer models, with success reported. IF YOU DECIDE TO, TRY THE "EPSON STYLUS HEAD CLEANING SOLUTION", JUST REMEMBER: The nozzles inside the print head assembly can be easily damaged by using to much force on the plunger of the syringe. Damage can even occur when you are using the epson stylus head cleaning solution method, if you actually try to force the fluid thru the nozzle. To much force/pressure can damage the little tubes inside the nozzle assembly and then it will never work again. One individual print head nozzle is so tiny, that it will not accept a human hair. You can see why they can get clogged so easily, or even why the nozzles can be so easily damaged. The correct method is to use the syringe to add the fluid into the nozzle and then leave the fluids set inside the nozzle for a day or two, to try and dissolve a possible bad clog. If you remove the Top Cover Assembly, then you can leave the print head assembly parked in its normal home position, at the far right side. Then any ink & fluids that are purged during the cleaning, will normally travel thru the cleaning station hoses, to the waste ink pads. If you have the "Print Cartridge Holder Assembly", positioned away from the home position, then you will need to slide strips of paper towels or coffee filters under that assembly, to soak up any expelled ink and fluids, or it can get all over. Sometimes you might have to use the fluids several times to be able to dissolve the clog in the print head nozzles. Sometimes the clog will never dissolve, or it actually damages the nozzles. The longer the clog has been in, the worse it is to remove. Again, if the cleaning fluids don't help, then its generally time to invest in a new printer. In some more expensive printers, you may want to get an estimate to replace the print head assembly, but as a general rule, its not really economical to do in the smaller epson ink jet style printers. You can generally buy a new small printer cheaper than you can have your old one repaired for. EXAMPLE: The print head assembly in the "C80" Printer sells for around $120 to $130. There is a REVIEW of the "Print Head Cleaning Solution", as well as general "Print Head Cleaning Instructions", that is available to view at http://www.inkjetprinterhelp.us/EKR.html ...Good Luck! Denny Conway
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| Re: Epson C82 Print Head Assembly by UK (7/19/05 5:15 AM) reply | + / - | Dicovered by accident that there is an easy(ier) way to re-attach the purge tube.
You need 2 pairs of Long Nose Pliers and a small thin srewdriver helps.
Push the carriage back as far as it goes lift it up into the grooves, jam a srewdriver in the holes to hold it, then with a little brute force you can push the carriage further back into the longer groove and lift it right up then sprag it with the srewdriver, this gives you alot more room to work.
Instead of trying to connect the clear tube back onto the small black hose (which seems impossible), use the pliers to remove the short black hose, a light tug should do it. Then while holding the clear tube with one set of pliers insert the black hose into it with the other pair. push on the sponge to angle the ?thing forward so you can see the plastic tube easier then using the pliers re-attach both tubes to the carriage thingy.
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| Re: Epson C82 Print Head Assembly by Razowolf (11/18/05 10:27 PM) reply | + / - | the tube just came off on my c82 also!! stupid piece of crap is one fat clog so i had to go to the local car shop and use some small windshield washing fluid tubing to replace it. i ziptied it on with a small zip tie making sur to cut the tail off and now its fine.epson better of changes this design flow or im nnot going to have any of their bussiness any more
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| Re: Re: Epson C82 Print Head Assembly by Anonymous (1/4/06 10:13 AM) reply | + / - | hi gazebo,
can you please put the link to the image of opening the printer back in place?
i want to try to fix my printer.
thx
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 | Re: Epson C82 Print Head Assembly by O'LNORSK (1/26/06 2:25 AM) reply | + / - | Not wanting to have to open the printer everytime the vacuum hose came off, the first time I had the printer apart I used a soldering iron that I previously had flattened the tip to a knife edge and cut a hole in the bottom of the printer just under the offending hose.
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| Re: Re: Epson C82 Print Head Assembly by rccanuck (2/4/06 6:35 PM) reply | + / - | Hey Razowolf...
How did you get the tube out of the black pump cylinder?
RC
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